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Dale
Intermediate Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 132
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 12:28 pm: | 
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i read the review on these antennas and others very well done but still one thing wasnt really answered for me.at the same location witch antenna would have the advantage a maco at 36ft at feed point.or a topone at 30ftat feedpoint.in the review different antennas worked better at differnent heights.what i uderstood from the review is a topone will outtalk a maco if boith under 30ft,and the maco will out perform the topone both at 36ft.but what if the maco was 36 at feed point, and the top one was 30ft or less at feed point. |
Tech833
Moderator
Username: Tech833
Post Number: 1023
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 9:42 pm: |
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Maco at 36 feet to feedpoint! |
Dale
Intermediate Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 133
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 8:28 am: |
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thanks tech833 i wasnt really sure. im unable 2 put up a beam so i gotta get the best talking g/p that i can find.are i was also wondering is there gonna be a review done on mr.coilys new base antenna ? |
Airplane1
Intermediate Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 485
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 6:53 am: |
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I would love to see that.
AP |
Road_warrior
Advanced Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 688
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 11:11 am: |
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No doubt the Maco V 5/8.
I'm running my uncles Top One right
now until i get my other antenna on
my tower.
Maco for sure... |
Road_warrior
Advanced Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 689
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 11:17 am: |
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I would also like to see a review on
Coily's enforcer antenna.
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Tech833
Member
Username: Tech833
Post Number: 67
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 7:32 pm: |
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Tell Mr. Coily to send one and I will. |
Road_warrior
Advanced Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 690
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 9:19 pm: |
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I contacted Mr. Coily by e-mail to see
if he was interested in sending you
a enforcer for review.
Have to see if we hear back from him... |
Crazy_d
New member
Username: Crazy_d
Post Number: 9
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 8:51 am: |
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FYI- Gizmotchy will be coming out with a Very High Performance 5/8 Ground Plane antenna probably by fall. I own the 4+4 beams and talked to the owner Tom Charles and got some of the lowdown. he is a very nice guy and I dont a problem to send a unit into Tech833 for a Review. Should be a great antenna to go along with the rest of the newly released ground planes. HEY ANTENNA DESIGNERS (maco, Jay, Coily, Gizmtochy, ETC...) keep up the great work on keeping the great aluminum ground plane alive and giving us a alternative to the fiberglass splatter sticks. |
Tech833
Moderator
Username: Tech833
Post Number: 1029
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 3:55 pm: |
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Fiberglass antennas are NOT 'splatter sticks'. There was a bad run of A99's at one time, and I exposed that. They were not soldered inside. Copper printed it in their print catalog and posted it here in a permanent archive article, so they were VERY up front about it. Later models were soldered. However, if you have a splatter problem, begin with the radio and work backwards to the operator.
I still highly suggest the Imax 2000 or the A99 for those who prefer easy assembly and a nice low price. There is absolutely nothing simpler with good performance made today. |
Road_warrior
Advanced Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 691
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 5:58 pm: |
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Tech 833,
I personally have not had good luck with
Imax 2000's in my area here in PA.
I have owned 3 of them. 1st one carried a
high noise floor all the time. I could not
hear locals who gave me under 2 1/2 S-units.
It caused little RFI problems to neighbors.
I had my equipment grounded with a short heavy
copper wire to outside ground rod. And antenna
was grounded. No GPK.
I bought another Imax 2000 cause i couldn't
settle the noise level down with everything
i had tried. 2nd Imax 2000 was alittle less
noisy, but, i still couldn't hear weak signals.
No GPK used. Grounded the same as first one.
Same radio used as was used on first Imax.
Little RFI to neighbors. But, Imax broke in
half when it fell while trying to take it
down. That was our faults.
Bought 3rd Imax, this one was a real splatter
stick. Used same radio. No GPK. Destroyed
my neighbors with killer RFI problems, only
running 2-4 watts. Grounded same as other 2.
Tried GPK, didn't help. Imaxs were up 38ft to feedpoint. Except the 3rd one was roughly 31-32 ft to feedpoint. I got disgusted and
decided to find a way to put up my I-10K.
As you know a I-10K needs a heavier mast than
most other antennas need. At least in my opinion
they do. Since i talk more local than DX i decided to take my beam off tower and
put the metal 5/8 wave up there. May add a
Horz Maco beam later instead of the larger
both polarized beam. Anyhow, in the mean time
i borrowed my uncles Top One antenna and mounted it at 31 ft to the hoop. I was very surprised at the much lower noise floor. Even though the
S-units were not as strong as Imax, i could
hear weaker signals much better. Top One
grounded like i had Imaxs grounded. Same radio.
I had no problems with RFI to neighbors even
running much higher wattages out of radio.
I finally got my metal 5/8 groundplane on
my tower yesterday. Roughly, about 39ft to feedpoint. So far, no problems with RFI.
Grounded alittle different as its on tower.
Way less noise than i recieved on Imax and
S-unit signals are stronger on recieve.
I tried different ways of grounding and
static discharge devices while running
the Imaxs. I'm very happy with the setup
i have now and thats what i'm sticking with.
Metal...LOL...
I have heard other people say they don't
get much noise from fiberglass. So, maybes
it's the area i live in, i don't know.
Or the way i had it grounded, didn't work
well with the Imaxs.
I know one thing, if someone purchases a
Imax, the GPK is well worth sticking on.
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Twowatt
Junior Member
Username: Twowatt
Post Number: 31
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 1:13 pm: |
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though not personally fond of fiberglass base antennas (especially when using high pwr), theoretically they should have less noise from "wind and rain"; since the mobile fiberglass antennas are quieter (for radio noise that is  )
in 35 yrs of radioing, i've only owned 1 fiberglass base antenna. "i think" it was called a spider, made by wintenna in the 70's. i got one of the first one's since i was there at their mfg plant a lot buying stuff for the cb shop. it's main advantage was it was broadbanded; otherwise it was a 1/2 wave dipole.
did anyone else have one? |
Dale
Intermediate Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 142
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 1:38 pm: |
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no roadwarrior mine has high floor noise as well gets out great but thats not good if ya cant hear low signals.i grounded everything like you no change.tvi problems also even with my stock grantxl 4watts am 12 ssb.im putting up a bem but if i ever get another 5/8 gp it wont be fiberglass.i never had a goog fiberglass moblie antenna either.example my wilson 5k outtalked my wilson silverload by at least 2 sunits |
Road_warrior
Advanced Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 696
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 6:57 pm: |
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My metal antenna is alot quieter then
my Imax was in the rain...Matter of fact its
gets dead quiet while raining.Except in thunderstorms.
I can hear people now that don't even
move my needle. Compared to people had
to give me 2 1/2 S-units on Imax to hear
them.
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Hotwire
Intermediate Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 441
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 10:01 am: |
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My Imax works perfect. 1.1 vswr no rfi to neighbors 20 feet away at 60 feet in the air. Uh lets see I recieve mobiles up to 50 miles away even at daytime in the rain and so far if I can hear them I can talk to them. 95% of the time I have really zero noise floor except for what is the norm for a sensitive recirver and SSB is pretty much silent unlees I turn up volume high. I never have had a splatter complaint which I feel that would be a radio issue anyway. Regardsless of time of day and any weather except lightning my Imax 2K is King around my neck of the woods. Later on I been thinking about a Mr coily for the heck of it but for the money you cant beat an Imax. At least around hear most people have one or an A99. I would say 75% of bases use them. |
Dale
Intermediate Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 146
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 10:23 am: |
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ive heard that from alot of people this
i max i got now will be my last one. if/when
i get a new on it WILL be a maco the radials on
those are 9ft right?im already doing measurements were my antenna is now.lol |
Airplane1
Advanced Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 502
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 11:27 am: |
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Road Warrior,
Have you heard from Mr Coily yet on if he will send an antenna to 833 for a review?
AP |
Road_warrior
Advanced Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 700
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 12:48 am: |
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Glad your Imax 2000 works good Hotwire.
I'm not putting Imaxs down, they just
won't work good around here. My friend who
lives more in the country about 4 miles
from me tried it and he also got excessive
noise. I can't explain it, but, thats the
way it is.
AIRPLANE1----Nope, i have heard nothing. |
Road_warrior
Advanced Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 701
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 1:08 am: |
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Yeah, the radials on the Maco V 5/8 are
about 9ft long there Dale.
Airplane1 has one up.
I have one, but, it's a very old one.
Dale i see your from PA. I am also from
PA. Central Part 25 miles south of
Penn State Unversity. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 6394
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 6:50 am: |
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Airplane1,
Dan / Mr Coily has been in direct contact with Tech833 and when Tech833 has more information he will post it for the Copper Forum Members.
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9OSN |
Airplane1
Advanced Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 504
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 8:34 am: |
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Cool Lon, cant wait for all the goods on the Coily ground plane antenna. I wont buy one cause i`m very happy with my Maco v and dont get to bad weather around here. We do get bad thunder storms but not enough to spend that kind of cash, i`ll take my chances.
Just want to hear how they perform and how well there built compared to others.
Thanks 833 for doing the reveiw.
AP |
Dale
Intermediate Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 151
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 11:15 am: |
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cooli wanna seea review also |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member
Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 770
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 10:52 am: |
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I'm interested in the Mr. Coily Enforcer because sometime this fall my tower is going up. (towerman got a new job so this has been put off till sometime this fall). Anyway, I'm currently running an Imax 2000 with g/pkit and I'm very happy. I have it 65ft at base in a pine tree. the antenna is grounded to a ground rod, and I use LMR-400 coax. My radio is a Magnum Omega Force S-45 with the Magnum line noise filter installed. Lots of times I can hardly tell if the radio is on--it that's quiet! Then someone breaks the airwaves and blasts all over the room. My Imax has performed as good as anything I've owned and better than most of the antennas I've ever owned. Overall, because of low swr and broadbanded with very good performance, I give it an A+. But I am not in love the idea of owning an Imax or anything else to the point I am not open minded to new products. Show me a product that does all that it does an s-unit better and I'll buy it. If this Mr Coily turns out to be broadbanded and this much superior to the Imax, as well as easy to put together and install, I will likely buy. Hopefully, I will have all of this information before my tower goes up.
Let's keep the good information coming.
Mikefromms |
Patzerozero
Senior Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 1564
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 5:35 pm: |
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broadbanded the enforcer does appear to be, gent in CT we've been talking with uses up as high as 27.650 & does talk on 26.915 i believe. swrs are 1.0:1 on mfj259b over 30 channels, & no higher then 1.2:1 up & down on freqs he uses. i MUCH prefer my maco v5/8 to the shortlived A99 i had, it sets at 1.5:1 from 26.835-27.555, close enough for my needs. as for $250 for the enforcer vs $75 for the maco, i haven't seen enough proof to spend the extra-YET . from what i heard, the mr coily was marked out of the box, set up as marked & required NO FURTHER ADJUSTMENTS to acquire near perfection... |
