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Tech808
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Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Brewdirect,

I am moving this Topic here from the Open Area to allow more room for New Questions / Topics in the Open Area.

I hope this is OK with you since your Original Question was answered for you.

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Brewdirect
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Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm going to be buying one of these three radios.

All of these radios have the functions I'm looking for. I wanted something that will do at least 40 watts AM and more on SSB.

I talk a lot of SSB, but I'm also looking for a radio with LOUD audio for AM this time around as well. I prefer the look of S9, but like the extra power of the 95T.

Anybody tell me what they are seeing for output on either of these radios right now?

Any opinions on these three? Leaning towards an S9, but if you got a 95T and like it tell me about it.

This hobby is a killer on the bank account :-)
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Capt205
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I liked my S9 in the truck so much, that I bought a second one for the house. Both a set up the same, and the AM audio is LOUD! They are good SSB performers also. They have most all of the extras that people usually add to their radio at some point ( RB, echo, TB, variable ect)all of which can be turned off if thats not your thing.

I'm very happy with mine, and I've owned a few different exports. Currently I own two S9's a Cobra 2000, an AR3500, and a Uniden 510
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Patzerozero
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHHHHHno no no that's S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9!!!

when last in the market for a new SERIOUS radio, as long as the price was not ABSOLUTELY ABSURD, ANYTHING warranted a look. price was not a sticking point if the radio met my needs. looked seriously into a 6900ftb before going with the S9. 6900 & 4800dxl/148fgtldx were also in the mix. had experiences, decent, too, with a 25 w 6900 & 148fgtldx. but that was the problem. xmit was only DECENT. i don't think their receive was quite grant xl/regular 148 quality, either, & at the time, my ar3500 was still used FREQUENTLY, & NOTHING compared to my 3500 at that point. so, on the recommendations of several people here, as well as elsewhere, i took a gamble on the S9. I DO NOT REGRET IT 1 BIT!!! sure, the 95t does more watts, but FOR MY USES, i can work around that situation quite nicely. i am 100% satisfied with the quality of rcv on my S9, sensitivity & selectivity-wise. it outhears almost everything i have available to me, & its receive is DEAD SILENT when the airwaves are quiet. i cannot say that of my delta force or ANY galaxy i have ever listened to. i would recommend the S9 to ANYBODY looking for a great radio, AS LONG AS THEY UNDERSTAND ITS POWER OUTPUT IDIOSYNCROSIES!!! you can't expect it to work with a boomer 250, & it won't compete wattage-wise with a 95t. i will NOT spend $400 for a 95t to compare it to my other radios in a hands-on way, but have listened to 1-95t in a radio shop in PA, & a 48-whatever(1x2290 am/fm) in a dumptruck, as well as owning a pluto, a galaxy II, a couple others in my past life, & having worked on too many to count 88's, 99's, & others. i still say the receive on a galaxy just doesn't compare to the S9's.
MAYBE, just MAYBE Iluvrf has a point regarding aligning a brand new radio. MAYBE. nothing personal, Brewdirect, but i know nothing of your technical skills or test equipt, but assuming you HAD to SEND or TAKE a brand new galaxy 95t someplace to be aligned & the cost was another $60+ OR MORE, plus tax and/or shipping so your 95t could HEAR like an S9, would you incur the additional expense & downtime? MAYBE my S9 would hear better if i had it aligned, but i can't imagine the receive being ANY better then it already is. & i still CANNOT recall EVER hearing ANY galaxy without the SHHHHHHH of white noise.

BTW, after cranking my S9 up, to a REAL 40+ watts swing on AM & internally adjusting AM carrier so it WILL key almost 12 watts with external variable knob cranked open, i tried several different power mics on it. i am NOT a fan of power mics & RARELY use 'em!!! now, i did NOT put it on a 'scope to see if i'm exceeding 100% modulation, so don't anybody ask. there is NO cut limiter in this radio, etc etc BUT with the addition of a shure 526t or a turner +2 desk mic on my S9, i have had some of the locals cringe in fear then nearly die laughing. not in a bad way, mind you. they consider my grant xl to be abnormally loud (& clear & totally understandable), & i finally have TOTALLY SMOKED my XL in loudness with the S9. from 1 mile to 45 miles away, AM & SSB, they have ALL said, hands down, without a doubt, the S9 is LOUD. now i am TOTALLY satisfied with my S9. & if a neighbor was to get a 95t to 'outdo' me, i'll just have to put an amp behind my S9. no biggie. i'll take the S9 over ANY galaxy ANY day of the week
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Justlou
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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 2:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have Magnum and a Galaxy, and if you want loud AM, it's no competition. The 95T is the loudest AM radio I've ever owned. The Magnum is a nice radio, and has better receive audio, but the 95T will talk all over over it on AM and SSB.
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Bigbob
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Uh,Pat,I have a 1996 chevy wt-1500 2-wd pickup truck and the fuel pump produces 1 s-unit of white noise on my 10 year old pc-122 with the noise blanker on,the radio is stock except for an expo-100 kit in it,if you haven't already done so could you install your s-9 in one and tell me the results,I'm looking for a radio that will BLANK this noise out,I have tried every noise filter I can think of,except an mfj audio filter(to pricy)and can't get to fuel pump wiring at tank without dropping said tank(omigod),please,please,all I want is a radio that is quiet in this truck while motoring down the road.The noise is picked up on the antenna,not thru the power mains.Bigbob
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Patzerozero
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Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 6:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

COAXCOAXCOAXCOAXCOAXCOAXCOAX!!

i make no guarantees on what i can't see, but...
when i 1st put my grant xl in my durango, with a 1x2290 amp to see if i'd have rfi problems(which i DID) i put on a wilson 2000 & a radio shack 5" mag mount. 60-75 watts of swing & all kinds of flashing lights & waving windshield wipers. once i was comfortable there was nothing going on with the computer, i doubled my output to a 2x2290. BIGGER rfi problems. all along i had 1-3 S-unit white noise with truck running, forget putting on heater or AC. could not hear a thing. the addition of the magnum power cord filter made some improvement, but still could not have blower motor on. the change to a triple mag mount & it's SUPER quality shielded rg8x knocked out most of the interference to the radio. changing that coax to 9913 & i can turn up the heat/AC full blast & only SLIGHTLY hear the whoosh, with no meter movement, turning the blower down just 1 click & there is NO white noise any longer. & 900+ watts PEP ONLY affects my 'liftgate open' light if antenna is mounted all the way to the rear of the roof, in the middle it doesn't affect anything. my S9 WAS WORSE in the white noise dept in the durango, & it is QUIETER then the grant when the engine is off/in the house. that is why i am confident in the amount of noise that can be shielded OUT by heavily braided/high % shielded coax. i definitely would try some high quality coax, even a temporary jury-rig, just to see if it may help. it also eliminated noise from a ford explorer, they too are notorious 'static' makers.

justlou, somebody can always go 1 bigger. i am sure my S9 is every bit as 'loud' as your 95t. i would pay the extra-I DID!-to get the better receive of the S9 over the 95t. if you think your 95t can walk all over my S9, put it next to it. the point is, putting your 150 watt radio vs my 40 watter, though you SHOULD theoretically 'blow me away', is NO CONTEST. until i run out of money, I WILL WIN EVERY SINGLE TIME. my concern is not over the wattage of the radio, but the wattage of the station. side by side, 40 vs 150, your carrier may be higher, but my audio will come through. & when it can't, the watts go up.
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Justlou
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Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 9:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pat, Are you saying the audio is louder on an S9 than on the 95T?? That just isn't true. I can turn the watts all the way down on my 95T, and it's still louder than my Magnum with a D104 Silver Eagle. I'm comparing the radios alone. Sure, an S9 with an AMP will be louder than the 95T. I don't run amps, so the only thing that is important to me is the radio. I have the Magnum and Galaxy in my shack in the house, so it's easy to compare them side by side. The Magnum is a nice radio, and sounds great. But when the truckers come rolling by on our channel when we're talking, I switch to the 95T and they go to another channel real fast.

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Bigbob
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Well,yeah,an S-9 with a super lazer 500 will blow the doors off a 95t and an I-max2000,that's like an S-9 running a five killowatt xmitter and the 95t driving a coathanger,if you want your radio to sound like the biggest guy on the block you gotta have the biggest antenna on the block as high as you can get it.Our school has a 150' guyed tower they're not using,I wish I could get it and put my whitelightning on it,but I would be responsible for taking it down,right now they'll take it down when it falls down,but that's another story.I have a 4-mag mount from copper and have used a full size whip and a wilson silver load,the coax is tandy but I have examined the shield and it is 95% or better and is mini-8,I like it because the jacket is very stiff and won't crush in the door and it is foam dielectric,the only noise I get on recieve is the fuel pump and thats it,the nb kills everything else and half of it but I still get 1-3 s-units of white noise from fuel pump,cuts my range in half
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if the coax is easily removable from that mount, just for kicks, try a piece of 213, 9086, 9913 or whatever you can get your hands on. just to see if it makes a difference.

and yes, i am saying the audio on my S9 is louder then a 95t at 40 watts. but what is loud? my S9 can get past almost everything running in the 50-60 watt range within 3 or 4 miles from me. about the only radio i have that isn't that dominating is my delta force, though it too gets exceptional signal reports. heck, my XL & a dx250 in my mobile can outtalk my 3500 on the base most times. and yes, i could switch from my S9 to my ar3500 @ 160 watts & make the truckers run too. i don't have to switch though, the S9 does just fine at 12 watts key & 40 swing.
ahhh, maybe it's the audio gain of my super maco v5/8's that makes my radios so loud.
STILL AIN'T BUYIN' NO GALAXYS THOUGH!!!
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Hotwire
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Speaking of loud...Have you ever noticed that some people yell into the mic when talking? Maybe they think if they yell they can get out farther.Theres a guy around me local who I cant reconize if he is not screaming into his mic. Once I heard him just talking normal and told him he was not yelling and sounded great!oopa, back to hollarin
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Duck246
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Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 8:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A friend of mine bought an S3, and it's got amazing audio quality and the receive is beautiful. He drives an X-force with his, and it sounds top notch.

It'd not an S9, but it's similar :-)
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If you want to walk tall in a sea of mudduck's then go with a 95T!Anything else is a waste of money.I have a well tuned 95T and have talked over other radios with twice the power i have.I have heard more than a few people say that the 95T has poor receive,i think it has more to do with poor cb techs working on there radios!I can hear a mouse fart 2 countys away on my radio.I like the magnum S9's to but why spend over $300.00 + another $250.00 for an S9 and a amp when you can just buy a 95T and be done with it.As far as the ranger goes.Got a friend that spent more money on that big ranger than i did on my 95T because he thought he was getting a better built radio,he sold it a week later to buy a 95T because my little Galaxy made it hard for him to talk to the locals.
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then that S9 needs to be checked out

'...design of the Galaxy board is inferior to that of the Uniden designed SSB radios built in the Phillipines in the late 1980's and early 1990's...transmit modifications...to all the EPT3600 models, including -10A, -10Z, -11Z, -14B the new EPT6900-10Z and newer projected updates are susceptible to distortion and overmodulation with nearly any attempt at increasing output...including severe overmodulation when done in the AM mode...reports of major distortion, also described as a severe wobble to the audio when used in either single-sideband mode...not to mention the distressed signal patterns showing severe clipping of the transmitted audio signal...' and regarding receive, '...the inherently poor design of the galaxy main chassis receiver sections...inadvertantly amplifying noise and limiting the amount of gain possible without overwhelming the speaker with more useless "white noise"...devices used in the better Uniden chassis designs, and the modifications possible to those chassis', which are not feasible due to the poorly thought out receiver sections of the Galaxy EPT- series chassis...sensitivity measurements approaching 1.25uV for 10dB S+N/N in the upper sideband mode...the Uniden chassis measuring less then 0.375uV for 10dB S+N/N prior to the very basic parts substitution modification...allowing for as much as a gain of 3-6dB...LESS THEN 0.2uV TO MOVE THE METER! Incredible for a device costing less then $200.00...rivaling some of the less-then-well-thought-out HF equipment costing nearly ten times as much...'

i assume you're talking ranger 2990/2995, in which case the 95t probably CAN both outpower & outtalk it. as for buying a 95t "and be done with it'-NAH! i bought my AR3500 new, to DRIVE an amp, not 'be done with it', therefore, the output of ANY radio is useless to me, for anything other then comparing to another RADIO or deciding what it will work with. apples to asparagus here, but $400 gets you 150 watts,$650 gets me 900 watts. if you're happy with 150-i am FINE with that. i'm not looking for 150, & if i had a 150 watt MAGNUM radio, it would be followed by at least an 8 transistor amp. if that's not what you want, that's ok, that's what i'm looking for though.

heck, my $150 grant xl is probably louder then that 95t or 88 or 99 or....anything except my S9
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My S-9 is the LOUDEST on AM with my 8 Pill "Sweet Sixteen" !! People say its the loudest during skip they ever heard ! Period..... I flat out CUT PEOPLES LIPS OFF with my setup. The Recieve is as good and quiet as my Kenwood. Magnum is #1
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Hey heavyweight, FYI ANY Ranger OR Magnum product will out perform ANY galaxy in rx / tx . PERIOD!! If you don't know now you know.
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Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9

I've always wanted to do that! Say what you want, the S9 is a far better radio than any Galaxy I've ever owned. Just got mine today, and I removed my 77 from my truck and the S9 now lives there.

You can't compare the 48T or 95T to a S9. Those radios have amps built into them. Remove those amps guys, and then put it up against the S9 and lets see whose standing after the smoke clears. Put the same size amp on an S9 that is on the 95T and try again....
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does any one have more photo's of the Mag S-9 then what copper on line has to show of that radio..
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Justlou
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I can't believe that the "Magnum Fan Club" has come down to suggesting "removing the amp from the 95T and putting it up against an S9". Maybe I should remove the engine form my Corvette, and race my neighbor's Ford Focus.? LOL!
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Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 2:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

in the vettes' defense, i'd get behind it & push to make sure it wins!
as for a galaxy, the only time i'll get behind it is-to push it off a cliff
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Justlou
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I don't know why you Magnum guys are so against Galaxy. I feel like I'm one of the few unbiased people on here. I'm constantly buying and selling different radios, and I keep the ones that perform the best. The Magnums are what they are. They have great receive, and good TX audio. The 95T is what it is too. The loudest, strongest radio I've ever owned. My audio reports are described as "bodacious." The receive does not sound as good as the Magnum, but it's still better than a lot of radios I've owned, and not nearly as bad as some suggest.
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Well first off, being a Ford fan would suggest taking the Vette's engine out period. But that is just my opinion...haha smile dude it's a joke.

You CAN NOT take a radio with an amp built into it and put it up against ANY radio without one. That is like comparing apples to raisins. I think it's the most correct way to test the loudness and clarity and tone of the two. OR put an amp, of equal power etc, to an S9 and then try them from there. I'm a big Galaxy fan, I own a ton of them, but the S9, hands down, defeats the Galaxy's receive. Roll your RF gain about 3/4 the way back, opps you can't do that with a 95T. Anyway, try it with any other Galaxy you have laying around. It won't, WON'T, receive what that S9 will, period.

It was summed up to me like this...

If you want a radio that you can only put a HUGE amp behind...go with the 95T. If you want something that you can put just about any amp behind...go with an S9. If you are looking for receiving....just get an S9 cause you can forget a Galaxy pulling it in like an S9.

Oh and one more joke...

Most Chevy guys say "I'd rather push a Chevy than drive a Ford" Good deal, cause you'll spend a lot of time doing just that...pushing it.
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I used to say that I would rather fix or repair a ford daily than EVER drive a chevy! Now a days however I am more open, if I like the car/truck, I like it that's it! Don't matter if it's Ford, Chevy, Dodge< etc...
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Justlou,

You are always going to find people who like different radios with different features and different radio equipment and antenna.

It all boils down to 1 thing and 1 thing ONLY!

IF YOU LIKE IT AND YOU ARE HAPPY THEN THAT IS ALL THAT COUNTS and NOTHING ELSE MATTERS!

Lon
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this is kinda like the parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents at the thanksgiving dinner table...democrats, republicans, liberals, conservatives-'alright kids, go play in the other room...' as the language got loud & R-rated. but the next morning they were all family & friends again...black eyes notwithstanding

it's the same here, i say all the time, galaxy's have a place in this world, they are the right radio for some...just not me
and when the rest of you agree with us, as therealporkchop has now seen the light too, you all can come down for breakfast in the morning with the rest of the family
anyway, i'd rather have the radio with the better receive, especially when it has great transmit too. it's just a bonus that the S9 has the BEST transmit

OK OK we'll call a truce, & just leave it that the S9 is....
and by the way, guys, how can 2 of the 3 amigos like fords??? i'm gonna have to talk to you 2

& in case anybody forgets-
NO GALAXY ALLOWED HERE
(see left<<<)
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Well I have to admit, I still have all my Galaxy radios. I've always liked them and I always will. Will I buy another Galaxy? Probably so. I've owned Chevy's too, only one or two, but I've stilled owned them. I just really like the Mustang, always have. Sorry guys.

I like the 95T, but the S9 just looks better to me. The faceplate is shiny, not flat black. The LED's are blue, not red or green. I LOVE the channel selector on the S9...Galaxy needs to buy up some of those. The S9 doesn't sound like a Galaxy, and that's why I like it the most. Plus like it's been said...the receive. Maybe the 11 meter receive for others has been good, but I don't care what you say, the 10 meter receive isn't.

I guess my Galaxy comments just got me kicked out of the S9 club. It was sweet while it lasted...
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I like the transmit on my 95T but it's a fact, in my case, mine does not hear as well as my Magnum 257. I'm going to get the high powered S-9 when they come out next year. I think they will swing around 75 or 80 watts.

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I started one crazy thread....but here's the verdict...

I didn't buy any of them :-)

Pickup up a Omegaforce today :-)
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Justlou
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The Omegaforce is a good radio. Pretty similar performance to the S9, but a lot cheaper. I have one. The blue display lights up the entire room. :-)
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ok, brew, i'll buy that! my delta force's receive is very sensitive, it hears exceptionally well! it does have that loud 'white noise' shhhhhhh i so despise. however i hear the omegas' receive is closer to that of the S9. the white noise reduction in the S9 was partly why i purchased it, i intended to replace my grant XL with 1st the delta, then the S9, which i never did. but i found the delta tricky to operate mobile when driving. the S9, is every bit a cb in operation & i find that when i do put it in a mobile, it'll be much simpler to operate. even my AR3500, which spent almost 8 GLORIOUS years in my mobile was simpler to operate while moving then the delta. in fact, i just added a 2nd ar3500 to my collection, in better condition then my well used model & never been tweaked, much less (permanently at least) modded to 11m. for a base setup, though, i think the omega is already on my 'should get' list.
again, good choice, brew!!!

i still don't think ANY brand new radio should need an alignment out of the box. 30 years doing this & i know what i can & cannot hear & how things should be received at certain distances. i've only had 1 radio that's receive was SO FAR OFF i returned it, got another & there was a world of difference. i should not have to take my time or spend my money to realign a brand new radio. if the factory cannot set up my radio properly, they need to be building something else. my S9 wasn't touched, receive-wise, & SSB is close to my icom's, & AM could quite possibly be better. & my icom WAS checked, & aligned to factory specs by an authorized icom repair center.
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Well I just bought a S9 thru Copper. I have a Galaxy 33 and 99, When I get my S9 I will post which I think is better in my opion. Been wanting to get the S9 for quite awail and finaly order today.

Cef 294
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Snowfire
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Well after about two week's using the new Magnum S-9 radio I got, well I just don't think it compares to my Galaxy 99.
I checked both radio's with two local's in Ada at the same time on the same setup. I didn't tell the local's which radio was which and they both said the Galaxy 99 sounded louder, stronger, and had a better signal.
I have been told the Magnum S-9 is loud but not as loud as my Galaxy 99.
The recive in both radio's is great.

Cef 294
Snowfire
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Chaulk one up for the Galaxy 99. I wonder how my Galaxy 95T would compare to the Magnum S-9, huh?
S-who? 95T95T............................

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Mike you probably can't hear me on that POOR 95T recieve so I will yell,
S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9!!!!!!
:-)
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Why if I can't hear you on my 95T and Imax 2000 with gd/plane kit up 90 ft at the tip with LMR-400 coax linking radio and antenna then I wonder why? Not on my end.

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Hey now, think about it
I can put the best antenna on top of the largest tower, top the talles mountain with the best coax and connectors, make everything perfect, hook it up to 2 cans and a string and still not recieve everything!
Did that make sense?
Obviousely your 95 is not 2 cns and a string, but everything being equal, the S9 out recieves the 95 hands down
I'll try it again (gotta clear my throught first)
uuuuheeeemmm!
Ok
whew
my voice is still a litlle harsh from before
aHEM!!!
Ok
S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9S9!!!
:-)
BC
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bc, at least WE know the TRUTH & you know as well as i do, my S9 out receives EVERY radio in my shack, & there's plenty, as well as EVERY radio i get in here, new & used for work. that said:

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You 2 should put your money together and buy a 95T and see just how good the recieve is on them. I can tell NO difference between the 95T and the S-9. Im not the only one either Both are better than .2uv
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The receive is not that bad on the 95T, it is just a little more noisey than some other radios. I doubt the S-9 has any better recieve than a President Lincoln. The Omega S-45 is probably just as good with more features and cheaper.

Mikefromms
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there's a post somewhere about not being able to find old posts-i can find neither that post nor the post where i say, without actually owning 1, the omega just may be every bit as good as the S9. that aside, my only problem with the omega/delta(which i do own) is i find it a bit tricky to operate while motoring in metro NY traffic(that & the dreaded white noise on my delta).
had the displeasure of setting a galaxy 99 up in a mobile with an amp last night. he bought 1 of my texas ranger 296's. i have to re-do that tonight. he just paid $325 for the 99 & got nothing but bad audio reports on SSB. will put the limiter on a switch for him so it can be 'in' on SSB & replaced no-name power mic with real rk56(those were mods done by shop he bought radio from). he's happy with transmit on AM now, but not on SSB. he hates the receive. on 27.555lsb he could NOT hear station approx 30 miles away, that was S3+ on my XL, my noise level was nonexistant, his was one big whirring white noise S1-3. i will admit AM is pretty good sounding, SSB was just plain BAD! & the receive on that radio was not what i'd want to listen to from a $300+ radio. he was not happy to hear that the 296 i sold him cost LESS then $140 brand new(less mods) & 1st question he asked was, why would they stop making a radio like this???
i wish i could find someone around here with a 95t, iluvrf, but either nobody has one, or they won't admit to it
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im surprised your list didnt have rci 2970dx
thats my personal choice but not on your list.
my pick from your list would ba rci6900150.only
because every rci i had were as stable as my friends kenwood.as far as warm up?ive never had
to wait for my rci to warm up.galaxys dont impress me at all. and probaly wont ever
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Ive heard a 95t and I thought it sounded pretty whimpy. The Omegaforce made it look like swiss cheeze..
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Hey big.In the past 12 years that have drove a truck i have owned more than a few Ranger radio's.2950,2970,6900hp and never ever has one had the same booming audio or the great receive that a Galaxy 77,88,99,48T,93T,95T.They were all new radios not used and were worked on by the very same tech i use to this day.As a matter of fact i have had 4 2950's and 6 months to a year of trucking they all had to be sent back to ranger to have the boards and the display repaired,after the 4th one i swore off rangers for good.Never had any major problems out of any of the Galaxy's i have had.I have never ever heard a ranger that had the same BIG radio sound that a Galaxy does unless it had some serious work done and half the time they sounded like !Now as far as the magnum radios,i have heard a few and they do sound loud and proud but inside they look like nothing more than a copy of a proven design the same design that others have tried to copy for years and that is Galaxy.Sounds to me like nothing but a bunch of wanna be radio builders who add some little ginmick like the top gun mod and compresser to the same design that galaxy has used for years jsu so they can get a peice of the market that Galaxy has held for years.Does that make them better,time will tell but in my book why settle for a copy of one of the best radios on the market when you can have the original!
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Hi all, I've talked to one guy regularly who has an s-9, and another with a 95t, and the verdict is in......they both sound great but-neither is nearly as loud on AM as my Navaho base station (golden screwdrivered) and Turner +3. Wish I had sideband though :^(
Likin' the old stuff.......Lee
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let's say i have no elctronic knowledge whatsoever. if i paid $350+ after shipping for a galaxy 99 & it's usefulness was impeded by its need for a 'tuneup'-REALIGNMENT-at a cost of probably $60 or more from big BUBBAS cb shop, i'd be looking for a new hobby real quick. i have never ever ever ever ever realigned the receiver section of a brand new radio. nor do i know anyone who does-until they screwdriver the whole radio & have no choice, & the time or 2 i can remember somebody having a problem as such, the radio was returned & either repaired or replaced by the seller. i wouldn't waste the time aligning my XL or S9 or delta or AR3500 or anything else i have. i know what i can hear & what the general radio poulation hears & i am more then satisfied. as for transmit, again i am more then satisfied with the work i do-without the aid of a $10,000 starter shop worth of gear. as for mass produced amps vs custom amps, that's kinda like comparing a $30 cobra to an omega-lower down the line compared to higher end. that's all.
thankyou for the kind words, lon. 10 years of MOBILE DXing with that very same grant XL & 1 foolish final disaster is the ONLY change made to the original xmit mods done 10 years earlier! & i've NEVER been told anything other then what you just said!
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I'd NEVER take a radio to a "CB Shop" to get it aligned. Odds are most don't even have the equipment that I do, and I don't have enough to do the job right. Don't even get me started on the most significant aspect - knowledge. The most telling piece of equipment isn't necessarily the oscilloscope either. If you know what you're looking at it tells you a great deal about the shop's capabilities.

That being said - EVERY SINGLE RADIO MADE can benefit from a thorough alignment - especially after being used for a couple hundred hours or so. Mass production doesn't allow the time needed to get things optimized for each and every radio. The guy on the line connects his test gear and adjusts for values within specifications and moves onto the next radio or he loses his job.

Someone with the right equipment and knowledge can do alignments on CBs with less than $1000 in equipment - if he knows what he's doing and shops well. There are alternatives to the methods that most service manuals proscribe, and sometimes they are even more accurate.

I personally will tweak some inductors in the RX chain to see if I can improve on the factory's work, and EVERY SINGLE TIME I have. I also touch up the frequency and make sure the modulation limiters are adjusted properly. I have maybe $400 in equipment and none of it was bought new nor was intended for service work. It's all amateur gear.
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funny thing is i have never seen or heard anyone who can tell if a radio is +/- 05% off.
If my radio is working and everyone says it is on frequency and the modulation is good why take it anywhere to have anything done to it?

i have owned over 30 radios mobiles and bases and never needed one aligned. why is that?

no one has ever said i was off freq or i sounded like . i have been on 19 and 38 lsb for tha last 4 years and had no problems with anyone saying my radios needed anything.

i drive every day and hear this kind junk from all of the radio experts on the road.

that is how HACK SHOPS make money they always tell everyone HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY your radio needs aligned.

sounds like you are trying to sell people a bunch of stuff they do not need or you have been playing with it and have it all messed up.

seems dumb to me to pay for something you do not need.

ee
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I don't run a radio shop or even sell radios out of my home like I imagine lots of folks here do. I'm just what they refer to in the computer arena as a power user.

Radios generally work right out of the box as your experience has proven, but they don't work their very best. If you've never had a radio aligned then you don't know what a difference it can make. It's the same difference that leads one person to say a particular model of radio is bad because of their experience, while another says that model is great. On some radios it's a small difference, on some it can be a big difference. Either way it's a difference.

Of the dozens of SSB CBs I've owned - not a single one was dead on frequency until I put it there. Maybe I have higher standards than most people, but because I operate SSB almost exclusively, operating frequency is very important to me.
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Agreeing with Hollowpoint, if it's sideband then it has to be dead on frequency.
HMMMM, (+or- 5% off)? On sideband it makes a big difference. 2-3 KHz. can be the difference between making contact or not making contact with that rare DX station you've been trying to make contact with for months. Remember 5 KHz. is half a channel and the better grade sideband radios can operate with 5 KHz. channel spaceing. And I for one know it can be done on one of the most busy sideband frequencies of 11 meters. And just for infomation some other countries have their channel spaceing of 10 KHz. on the zero frequency. Correct alignment means everything.
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Pointman
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After being spoiled for years by my Grant XL when I puchased my 93T for it's reputation for awesome AM audio my biggest suprise? The receiver. Sell the 48,93, and 95 short in this department and you are making a big mistake.
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I have a RCI 6900/F150 and love it a little drift but no biggie drives the out of my KLV-1000P.
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Pointman has seen the light. The reciever on the 48,93, and 95 isnt the same ol noisy reciever in the older galaxies.
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I also know what a factory alignment consists of. If your new car came from the assembly plant out of timing, why would you not get it fixed? Same principal. Factory radios are not set for OPTIMAL performance. Why not make them better? Guess I fall in that 1% that wants the most out of their radio. I refuse to spend hundreds on a radio and get sub par performance out of it. All my radios perform as good as they possibly can because I take the time to make sure they are perfect.

You said "While Every radio could benifit from an alignment, do I personally feel that it is it 100% necessary to operate the radio and have 100% satisfication with a radio? NO!"
WHY?? Why would you use a radio that you are not 100% satisfied with?? $30-50 for a quality alignment is a CHEAP way to improve every aspect of a radio
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I agree with Lon 110% on having a respected tech peak and tune your radio, to not have this done is a waste of your money spent on the radio.
It would be the equivelent of not knowing your "butt" from you elbow, not knowing any better and having a GPS tracking system to tell you where it is. You think you are there but you are still lost.

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I've been told by the techs in town the S9 is perfect out of box and needs no tuneup and its componets should not be fooled with because they are at optimum. Now my 148 most definatley needed a tuneup and afterwards it waS A DIFFERENT RADIO all together. I think your average run of the mill radio wouldnt hurt to go ahead and peak and tune. Expensive high end radios I would be very cautious who I let open up.
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It is great that a radio is built right the first time with no need for mods to be loud and proud.
That said if a radio is built off of an assembly line regardless of where that is it should be checked out IMHO for alignment at least. My hard earned cash is going to be spent on having a trusted tech check my investment out before it gets shipped to me.
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if they want my hard earned cash, they should do it right the 1st time, not make me spend more to align it...
my tv, my stereo, my car, my refrigerator, my AC unit, etc etc etc all come off of an assembly line. the same logic there says i should align/retune/check them out, too. sure, you get a lemon once in a while from ANY product, but come on now, if it ain't built right from the start, go buy a different brand
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"my tv, my stereo, my car, my refrigerator, my AC unit, etc etc etc all come off of an assembly line"
Pat are you talking on anything you have mentioned here?
Yes you are receiving on your tv and stereo but is it equivelent?
The space shuttles are supposed to be "built right from the start" as you put it. Should we be buying a different brand?
If it is made by man or by a machine made by man there will be a certain degree of error in that process, basic statistics show this. Some error is acceptable some is not. Some is expected, some is not. Some can be corrected, some cannot.
In a perfect world every radio that is built is built "right from the start". When you find that radio Pat please let me know.


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BTW I agree with you Pat, I work as an ED nurse and I have to do it right the first time. That said I also have to operate with you under these same circumstances and I am not happy about it.
We can accept it, fight it, change it, do nothing about it or comply with it.
I have not chosed to accept it. I cannot fight it, I cannot change it, I refuse to do nothing about it and will never comply with it.
My conclusion? I work with the results and make the best of it.

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This alignment issue on sideband is more of a problem, I think, when a radio is "type accepted" and comes out of the factory with the clarifier locked. When my buddies and I chat on sideband, we can all dial each other in,in a matter of moments, but the one guy with the stock CB is lost....talking on one frequency and listening on a slightly different one. With a group this is a real problem, as it leads to frustration on the part of that one guy. I can see people having issues with running big power on CB or going outside legal freq's, but that rule about not unlocking the clarifier has got to be the wackiest one I ever came across....73..Lee
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Hey BIGBOB,
You don't have to drop the tank to get at that fuel pump. Just remove the bed. lol.

J/K

sg569
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in regards to your response, lee, it may actually be HARDER on SSB to tell how close to 'on frequency' a radio is BECAUSE where 1 person WANTS to hear another MAY NOT NECCESSARILY be where you or i want to hear him. hearing loss or other hearing impairments in an individual may leave them to prefer audio a bit on 'the high side' or wherever so it's easier to copy. now let's say HIS clarifier is open on a 148, the next person listening in on a dual clarifier may tune the locked control the other direction etc etc etc. MAYBE NOBODY'S RADIO IS 'OFF FREQ'-BUT HOW THE HECK WOULD ANYBODY KNOW???? THAT'S WHAT THE KNOB IS THERE FOR! a deep voice on 38 lsb & i may tune my radio's RIT a notch or so high. or i may be set to 100 Hz instead of 1kHz & tune VFO to 27.3853. does that mean MY radio is off freq??? not at all & even if my counter SHOWED .3850-which it WILL if using RIT only, WHAT IS 'SETTING RADIO SO IT'S ON FREQ' POSSIBLY GOING TO DO FOR IT???
as for realigning my receiver??? if i turned on a NEW radio, whatever it may be, & couldn't hear what i usually hear, it WOULD GO RIGHT BACK.


sg569, bigbob's fuel pump problem was 5 weeks ago. by now i figure he took the sledgehammer to everything involved-truck, tank, pump, radio, computer
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just went back to top post-that *&%#@% brewdirect character started ALL of this!!!!! and you know what, he DID NOT even buy 1 of the radios he got this whole thing started with.
at least the OMEGA was a magnum & not no stinkin' GALAXY
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I find it absolutely amazing that you don't want to align a radio, yet you'll extensively modify it.

Do you ever get your car tuned up? It's the same thing - maintenance.
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only when it don't run right
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Bc910
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The point is Hollowpoint445
do you give your car a tune up RIGHT AFTER BUYING IT BRAND NEW!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!


I thought not, niether should you have to "tune up" a brand new radio

Respectfully:
BC
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No, because the engine management system is sophisticated enough to tell me when something is wrong AND I expect the manufacturer has done a diagnostic check before the car is delivered to ensure it's working properly.

My Dad always took his cars to his mechanic soon after he bought them to get a tune up - new or used. He never owned a car that was fuel injected or had oxygen sensors so carburetion setup was important. My brother's Harley was tuned up by the dealer where he took delivery because they recognize that it's necessary.

Every used car I bought was looked at by a qualified mechanic who's a family friend and ASE certified. For a couple hundred dollars I know the mechanical condition of the car. I'm sure he knows more than I do about fixing cars and he's got all the diagnostic equipment and training - which is my whole point.

Hey, it's your money - go ahead and do whatever you want. All I'm saying is that EVERY radio can benefit from a thorough alignment - especially after it's been used a couple hundred hours. If you don't think it's money well spent then don't get it done. I know that no radio I ever bought was on frequency from the factory. Even my $2000 HF rig was off about 200kHz - it's operating manual even has directions telling you how to get it on frequency. Every CB I looked at on my station monitor didn't have the AMC or ALC adjusted to allow 100% modulation. I also know that every time I've played with the receiver chain the radio has benefited from it. But if you believe that the factory gets it all right every single time - go right ahead.
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Eagle_eye
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Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 9:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

can someone pleeeeeeeeeeeese burn the soapbox and stop all the preaching about aligning radios.

how did this stuff get started when the question was about buying a S9, 95T OR 6900F 150 and nothing else?

man the guy never even asked about aligning any radio!

ee
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Bc910
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Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hollwpoint,
You hit on my point several times but didn't realize it.
A radio just like a car should get a tune up after a while but if the radio is made well and the factory has good quality control it should be perfect right out of the box! I understand that nothing is perfect but Galaxies QC stinks! Magnum radios are almost always real close right out of the box! so lets do an other analagy,
My S9 is like a fuel injeced brand new beutifull car with all the newest "CB" technology and good QC at the factory, a Galaxy is more like 1960's car with no computers, no o2 sensors, no fuel injection, and yes because of all that it does need a tech to look at it right out of the box. The S9 represents an evolvement in CB all that most people want in a CB and all that most people do to a CB has allready been done and they have done a pretty good job at seeing that it works well with out spending more money on a tech to align it short after peurchase (like it should be)!
BC
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Patzerozero
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Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 7:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


(hic!)
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Hollowpoint445
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Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 8:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bc910 - Making a correlation between a CB and a car that has several computers on board is just poor logic. The two have nothing to do with one another. If you want to draw a correlation between a CB and a car you'd have to compare it to a pre-computer management car - one where adjustments are done manually by a technician with diagnostic equipment.

The S9 is no more sophisticated than a Uniden Grant or any other CB radio. I could say it's less sophisticated than some radios, but that's beside the point. Any radio is only as good as the QC at the manufacturing plant. I've never owned a Magnum radio, but I doubt their QC is any better than Uniden's. I own several Uniden made radios and EVERY SINGLE ONE benefited from a once over right out of the box, and again after using it for a while.

I understand your point that you shouldn't have to give a new radio an alignment, but you have to understand that mass production doesn't allow for perfection when tuning a radio on an assembly line. They get it within specification and move onto the next radio or they lose their job - it's just that simple.

Does the radio work right out of the box? Sure it does. Does it work it's absolute best? Probably not unless you got really lucky. It will be within the manufacturer's specifications though, and that means it'll work okay.
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Bc910
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Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 9:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You were the one who drue that line from car to CB first I just ran with it :-)
Any way I never said that it is perfect out of the box, and I never compared it to Uniden. I would say the QC is as good as Uniden and that is my point. "As good as Uniden" is FAR better than Galaxy! And yes there are more sophisticated than the S9 when it comes to technology, but the S9 is more sophisticated where QC, features, and reliability is concerned.
BC
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Mikefromms
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Bc910, I'm glad you like your S-9. I almost bought one myself but it didn't have all the features I needed after all. I've recently purchased a Cobra 200GTL for my mobile. I own a Galaxy DX 95T for my base. The radio is not as quiet as some radios but after lots of use I find the ears are good. I can pull out the distance station. I can literally talk to anyone I hear. The radio is stable on SSB and with the cooling fans to cool the amp it is well maintained. Gives hour upon hour of troublefree service.

If I were buying another Magnum, I'd choose the Omega Force S-45 over the S-9 because it is every bit as good, so I read, and it has more features.

Anyone thinking about buying a Galaxy 93T or 95T--go ahead--you will be very happy at the top of the pile.

Mikefromms
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Bc910
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Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 6:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I give up :-)
BC
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Patzerozero
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speaking of the NEW cobras, i've read(elsewhere) that they're NOT neccessarily all that hot in the receiver section & definitely NOT 1 of the big guns in the AM audio dept...
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505
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I bought a GALAXY 93T and my brother bought a MAGNUM S9 ,we plug the GALAXY 93T and the MAGNUM S9 to compare both radio and use a antenna MOONRAKER 6 and the MAGNUM S9 had better receiving. Then a week later my brother took the GALAXY 93T to a tech for aligment, after the aligment we compare both radio and plug it to the antenna MOONRAKER 6 the result was the GALAXY 93T have good receivng like the magnum s9 ,and other words if you going to buy a galaxy be ready to spend more money than the MAGNUM S9 . I like the GALAXY 93T because it have the mic on front and the MAGNUM S9 have the mic on the side thats one of the reason the second is i don't like the radio like the 95T because it had a amp in it. MY personal opinion i like the GALAXY 93T better than the MAGNUM S9 because is one of the best radio for run a amp and like the mic on the front,but like the MAGNUM S9 to is a nice radio
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Hotwire
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 2:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've owned an S-9 for about 6 months now. The receive is just amazing. I don't really brag much on any of my radios transmit as long as the audio is clean and clear. If people keep asking me to repeat what I just said that is a sign of an audio problem. The barefoot 50 watt S-9 has the loudest audio I have ever had in a radio and it is crystal clear. Of all the radios I have run on the base antenna barefoot this is the first barefoot radio that has enough power/mod to cause front end overload to a couple TVs in my house, even with a quality LPF. When I run the Texas Star 500 with the S-9 it becomes a modulation monster!
The S-9 was made to be king of the hill of loud AM modulation! The receive is like no other cb/export.
When Dr. Frankenstein said," Its alive its alive its alive!!!!".......He was actually talking about the Magnum S-9. That is if he was building a radio instead of a big green monster.
Kenny
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505
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Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 5:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WELL I NEED HELP CHECK THIS OUT I JUST CALL A CB SHOP AND ASK WHICH RADIO IS BETTER QN AM AND CLEAR ON SSB THE MAGNUM S9 OR A RCI 2950DX AND THEY TOLD ME THE S9 IS A MADE IN CHINA WITH A CHEAP PARTS SO THEY SAID YOU BE BETTER WITH THE 2950DX. BUT NOW I AM CONFUSE BECAUSE I HEAR A LOT PEOPLE SAYING THE RCI 2950DX DRIFT ON SSB AND THE MAGNUM S 9 DON'T THIS SHOP SAID THEY SPECIALIZE IN BIG RADIO FOR COMPETION (RA) I THINK THIS PEOPLE WANT TO SELL ONLY GALAXY OR RCI RADIO. THEY SAID THE MAGNUM IS NOT BUILD THE SAME. SO FOR YOU GUYS WHICH ONE IS BETTER ? THANKS
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Tech808
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Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 7:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

505,

My #1 choice would be MAGNUM for the simple reason of Warranty work should you ever need it.

And MAGNUM is the "ONLY" company where if you should have any Problem's or Question's you can call MAGNUM and speak to the OWNER of MAGNUM International Sam Lewis DIRECT!
Lon~Tech808
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Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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505
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Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 9:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks TECH808 i was waiting for your answer that make me feel better i knew the S9 was better i was only waiting for a second opinion and i goted from WHO ELSE TECH808 thats the man,so i no which way to go now S9 all the way
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Canal_digger
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Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 9:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I own both the S9 and 95T (not newer T2). I purchased the 95T first and really like it as a base station w/ it's power, etc. BUT, when looking at something for the mobile about 6 months later, I did some homework and wound up with the S9. I agree w/ the above supporting S9s receive, no heat drift and SSB. It also has the variable power to run an amp. In the end, I wound up using the S9 as my base and the 95T in the mobile. I now see the newer S980 has 80 watts for the price I paid for the 50 watt S9. If you're going to push an amp sometime down the road, go with the S9 in my opinion.

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