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1861
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Post Number: 386
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Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 6:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I,M FIXING TO ORDER A SMALL BEAM , EITHER M-103 OR MACO V-QUAD . ANY SUGGESTION ON WHICH IS BEST ?
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Road_warrior
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Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maco M -103
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Airplane1
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Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 1:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Deffenetly the 103 in my opinion.

AP
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Tech808
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Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 2:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1861,

Never used the V Quad but have used and like both the M103 and the M103-HV MAXIBEAM.

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Saddletramp025
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Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 5:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1861, I tried a V-Quad and wasn't happy with it at all, Go with the M103 or if you can a Comet. The Comet is still light and easily turned by a small rotor.
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Tech291
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Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 6:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1861,
the V quad can be best set for either horizontal or vertical.if it is erected in the "V" posistion ,it is a compromise between both polaritys.I had one of the old Wilson V quads(same design) and was never impressed with it.of the 2 choices you listed the M-103 would be the better choice.

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Unit199
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Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1861,
I have a M103 and I really like mine. I have it down right now for checking everything on it to make sure it will be OK for winter. Also when it goes back up, it will be horizontal. I think you would be satisfied with the M103, because you don't have the wire to have to worry about.

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1861
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Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 7:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

THANKS FELLOWS , I,LL BE ORDERING THE M-103 THIS WINTER
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1861
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Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 9:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I WILL BE KEEPING MY I MAX AND TOP ONE UP , SO WOULD I BE BETTER OFF RUNNING THE M 103 HORIZONTAL ? I JUST WANT IT FOR SKIP TALK
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Road_warrior
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Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

YES,Horz would be best for DX.
If you have a tower you can mount your
Imax above it if you wish.
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Nickel
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Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 6:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What is the range of an m103 compared to lets say a a-99 or a imax 2000. The reason I asked is because of my location. I live on the north west side of the city and everybody that talks on the cb are on the south east some 10 to 15 miles away. With my a-99 they could hear me but lets say i threw them around a 2 to 3 on the meter. What could i expect with the m-103 at the same height around 30 ft.
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Road_warrior
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Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 7:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe around 2 S-units better than A-99,
if M-103 is mounted vertical.
If mounted Horz., it may be less than A-99
when talking to locals if they are Vert.
You could also consider getting a amp.


JIM/PA/CEF 375
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Nickel
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Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks RW Im on the nice side of town. People around here don't even know what I'm talking about. CB is that like smoky in the bandit!!! Yep I tell them. But everyone that talks on the radio is on the otherside of town or in a diffrent town over 25 miles away which I talk on ssb
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Bruce
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Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 9:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nickel ...

I agree with Road warror The REAL gain of a 3 elm beam is 6-7 DBD MAX and this would show up as about 2 "S" units on most radios .... "S" meters are very loose.
What you gain on TRANSMIT you also gain on RECEIVE to you and the other guy it is a increase of 4 to 1 like going to 16 watts by BOTH of you. Using a beam also allows you to reject noise and distant stations
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Road_warrior
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Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 7:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nickel,

If you have the room mount yourself a
4 element beam (Vert.) Best bang for
your bucks over the A-99.

JIM/PA/CEF 375
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Nickel
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Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thats what I wanted to know. The smaller the beam the better for me not much room. Thanks for letting me pick your brain.
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Yankee
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Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 1:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As I look out and up I see a nice PDL-ll in the air, but not doing me a bit of good with no DX conditions to use it.

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