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Big_mac
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Username: Big_mac
Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 11:02 am: | 
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What is the the wiring diagram for a Royce 40 channel base station |
Funtimebob
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Username: Funtimebob
Post Number: 324
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 3:04 pm: |
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Can you be a little more specific (Model Number)?
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Scrapiron63
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Username: Scrapiron63
Post Number: 890
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 3:06 pm: |
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Do you know the model number of the radio. |
Big_mac
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Username: Big_mac
Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 4:34 pm: |
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619 |
Big_mac
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Username: Big_mac
Post Number: 3
Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 4:59 pm: |
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What would the wire colors be on the Royce 619 base station if i wired a Astatic hand mike to it
the mic has
PIN #1 ~ SHIELD & BLUE
PIN #2 ~ WHITE
PIN #3 ~ RED
PIN #4 ~ BLACK
But but what is the colors on the Royce 619 base station.
So I know which ones to switch |
Funtimebob
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Username: Funtimebob
Post Number: 325
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 7:57 pm: |
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1 white
2 shield & Blue
3 Red
4 black
Just gotta reverse pins 1 & 2
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Big_mac
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Username: Big_mac
Post Number: 4
Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 11:11 pm: |
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didn't work no key up |
Tech858
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Username: Tech858
Post Number: 445
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 5:50 am: |
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Pin#1 = Audio = White
Pin#2 = Ground = Shield & Blue
Pin#3 = TX = Red
Pin#4 = RX = Black
This is what I come up with too , which model of Astatic mic is it and have you had it from new ? The reason I ask this is because some people change the wiring inside the mic so that it can work with relay switched radios .
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Funtimebob
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Username: Funtimebob
Post Number: 329
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 10:23 am: |
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Why would somebody change the inside of the microphone to change it to relay switching when all you gotta do is separate the blue wire from the shield?
then the blue and red wires would be used to key the mic and the white and shield would provide the TX audio
Did the radio transmit using a different mic BEFORE wiring up the astatic?
I would think 1 of 3 most likely possibilities
Bad mic cord
bad mic switch
bad final
with a antenna or dummy load attached take a piece of wire and momentarily touch pins 2 & 3 together
If it keys up you know it's in the mic if not....
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Tech858
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Username: Tech858
Post Number: 449
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 11:36 am: |
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Funtimebob you just asked what I should have  that was a good question , senior moment on my part me thinks 
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Big_mac
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Username: Big_mac
Post Number: 7
Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 11:16 am: |
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i put a royce mobile mic on there and it keyed up but no receive |
Big_mac
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Username: Big_mac
Post Number: 8
Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 11:17 am: |
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i don't the model just says Astatic in blue then says made in USA |
Tech858
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Username: Tech858
Post Number: 450
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 11:42 am: |
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What sorta shape is it , does it have a round mesh grille or is it teardrop shape , does it have any slider controls if so has it one or two ? Is there no model number stamped on the rear of it ?
Tech858/Jim
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Funtimebob
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Username: Funtimebob
Post Number: 330
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 11:52 am: |
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I wasn't referring to the Royce, I was referring to modifying the mic for relay switching in general vs plug wiring.
The Astatic mic shouldn't need to be modified for relay switching, just a simple change at the plug.
There are 2 different ways of wiring the mic for relay switching depending on the radio.
If a radios audio ground needs to be separate from keying ground separate the blue from the shield and hook up to their appropriate pins.
If they do not need to be separate lines, the blue and shield would probably stay together and most likely the rx line wouldn't be needed.
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Tech858
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Username: Tech858
Post Number: 452
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 12:22 pm: |
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But there is a possibility someone MIGHT have done that not knowing you don't need to that is what I meant perhaps I should have made myself clearer .
Tech858/Jim
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Funtimebob
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Username: Funtimebob
Post Number: 331
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 12:34 pm: |
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If you jump pins 2 & 4 with a piece of wire do you get any receive?
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Big_mac
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Username: Big_mac
Post Number: 9
Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 1:15 pm: |
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Tear drop |
Big_mac
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Username: Big_mac
Post Number: 10
Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 4:06 pm: |
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model number is 636L |
Big_mac
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Username: Big_mac
Post Number: 11
Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 5:04 pm: |
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Astatic 636LSE Noise Canceling Microphone |
Big_mac
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Username: Big_mac
Post Number: 13
Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 8:11 pm: |
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well when I got done soldering the wires on the pins it was already keyed down but no audio and i crossed pin to with pin 4 and didn't do nothing |
Big_mac
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Username: Big_mac
Post Number: 14
Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 10:06 pm: |
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It didnt do anything when i crossed the 2 and 4
but when i wired it up before crossing it was already keyed up but no audio was keyed with out pushing button |
Funtimebob
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Username: Funtimebob
Post Number: 332
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Friday, November 25, 2011 - 1:30 am: |
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with no mic connected and touching pins 2 and 4 (You did have an antenna connected right? squelch down, volume up....)
you should hear something through the speaker.
do you see the receive needle moving around? If you see the needle moving with no audio, And you wired the radio according to the information you were given
Pin#1 = Audio = White
Pin#2 = Ground = Shield & Blue
Pin#3 = TX = Red
Pin#4 = RX = Black
And when you transmit you do not get any transmit audio (Meter doesn't swing while talking on transmit)I would start suspecting that it is not a Mic problem that there is a problem inside the radio. (Blown audio output).
Since we know that the radio will key up (Pins 2 & 3 shorted)
and you don't hear anything (with pins 2 & 4 shorted)
My money is on a bad radio
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Big_mac
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Username: Big_mac
Post Number: 18
Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Friday, November 25, 2011 - 11:04 am: |
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Yes squelch down volume up. and antenna connected. |
Big_mac
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Username: Big_mac
Post Number: 19
Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Friday, November 25, 2011 - 11:05 am: |
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well couldn't be audio output because I talked on it but no receive |
Funtimebob
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Username: Funtimebob
Post Number: 333
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 9:31 am: |
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This
"well when I got done soldering the wires on the pins it was already keyed down but no audio"
kinda contradicts this
"well couldn't be audio output because I talked on it but no receive"
Now your starting to confuse me.
You may need to open the radio and see if the radio's microphone jack has been rewired.
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Big_mac
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Username: Big_mac
Post Number: 20
Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 6:37 pm: |
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ok will do |
