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Flybynight
| | Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 8:41 am: | 
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I recently bought a Browning Eagle MarkIII.It's in great condition and work's perfect.Is there anyway to add extra channel's to this radio?How about a VFO of sometype?What would be the easiest way to go with this? |
307
| | Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 12:56 pm: |
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Mega $$$ Crystals or an eBay VFO Special...Too much $$$ and the radio is to old to put any money into it. By the time you buy the stuff , put it in , you are better off with a new 2517 for the same money..
307 |
Flybynight
| | Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 5:48 pm: |
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I know the radio is an oldie but i still would like to put extra channel's in it.All the folk's in my area talk on channel 30 so the Browning is out on that.I have a RCI2980,RCI2950,and 3 HR2510's.I just like the Eagle though.$$$ not really a problem,just need to know which is the best way to do it.
Thank's 307 |
Scrapiron63
| | Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 6:32 pm: |
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Flybynight, I'm not trying to jump ahead of the techs here, but I like the old Brownings also, i've go 5 sets of various models. Click on my profile for a pic of my Mark III, right next to my saturn, best of both worlds for CB. Does the receiver have channel 30 already. On your tuning knob, if its a later model, it will have: CB-HF-XTL.
On the others it will have: Man-XTL1- XTL2
The later models will receive up to above 27.555 in the HF position. If its the older model you will need another crystal for the receiver.
Now you also need something for the Transmitter, you can install one crystal and get 23 more channels, it will need to be on a switch with the orginial crystal. You can also use a VFO for the Transmitter, you will need one in the 16 meghz range. scrapiron |
307
| | Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 8:02 pm: |
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By ALL means , jump right ahead of us. We are not perfect , I just recall a guy bringing one into the shop and it left with an $90 tag for upper channels and alignment. If you know a fast way , let us know!! Thanks
307 |
2600
| | Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 9:16 pm: |
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Is the transmitter the SSB version (same size as the receiver), or the AM-only one that is half the width? If you've got $200 plus KY sales tax, there's a digital solution becoming available, bit by bit. It ONLY fits the SSB transmitter. I'm pretty sure my e-mail address is posted here.
An external slider will ONLY expand the transmitter. The receiver is completely independent, and they made two versions. One with a single tuneable band, and the other had two, and went up to 27.605. If you want lower channels, you really need someone who knows the surgery to do that. And if you have the early "one-band only" receiver, that goes for hearing above chanel 27.
It goes without saying that running a 1969 radio is a lot like driving a 1969 car. You'll have more maintenance headaches (cha-ching) than with a newer one. And more of them if nobody has done the 100,000-mile tuneup, replacing ALL of the old electrolytic capacitors. This really reduces the breakdown rate. Kinda like replacing all the rubber seals and gaskets in that 1969 car. Those parts just aren't meant to be good for 25 or 30 years. If the relay in the transmitter goes bad, you have to replace the socket. Original relays have been extinct for almost 20 years. The ones you CAN get take a different socket, and it is wired differently from the original.
Before you ask, no I don't accept radio work on the internet, but it sure sounds like 307 knows the routine for this one. Just be sure your mode (AM-USB-LSB) switch in the transmitter isn't ready to break down. It seems that switch is a pretty common "25-year" part. Look for a toasted half-watt resistor soldered to one pin of the large round aluminum can. This indicates a mode switch that is failing. The original color bands are orange-orange-red-gold. If they look like orange-orange-black, you got trouble.
Most of the people I know who run a Browning have another radio (or two) for lotsa channels and for SSB. They spend the money it takes to run a Browning for the reasons people bought them new: style, performance, and above all, the SOUND. They really did cost a mint to buy new. Some things never change.
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Flybynight
| | Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 5:53 pm: |
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Let me say thank's for all the reply's first off.Second,the reciever and transmitter are the same size.And both are SSB.The reciever does have CB-HF-XTL on it.This radio is in outstanding shape.All new tube's,new capacitor's.
Scrapiron63,what would the crystal frequency have to be to get 23 more transmit channel's above channel 23?I dont really care about the lower channel's though.
You guy's are great and i really appreciate all the info.I can handle this mod myself with the right information.I'm a technician with a local brocast FM radio station here.I currently hold an extra class amateur license also.I really havent messed with cb's much though.Just got into it about a year ago and decided to get a little serious with it now.Thank's again for the reply's! |
Scrapiron63
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 9:21 am: |
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2600 your right about the conversion, if you want to talk 20 channels below 1 and also 20 channels above 40, the Mark III is a bad choice, as the transmitter will need retuning every 20 or so channels anyway. They are not my favorite for runnin' channels. However since most CB'ers have a home channel for much of their talking, this conversion has worked well for me over the years. I set mine up for the low side, and they will run thur the low channels and regular 23 without a lot of retuning. I use the 4.7 range, and since I don't even attempt SB on the Mark III, I use the mode switch for the conversion, put the low channels on LSB, highs on USB. I've also used the siltronix 90 VFO since they first came out, they are probable the most practical solution, and you can 'attempt' the SB with them, drift city there however. I remember all the old Browning dealers use to have the Siltronix 90s sitting right there with the Mark III's. Of course that requires a freq counter also, more $$$, back then your could expect to shell out well over 200 bucks for the VFO and counter. Then when the Glenn came out, seems like it was near 300 bucks. Like i've told lots of people in the past, you've got to want to run a Browning to put up with is quirks. They are still very popular however, I saw a Mark IVa sell for 1250 bucks on e-bay yesterday. |
2600
| | Posted on Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 5:21 pm: |
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Hey, FlyByNight, if you're still watching this thread, I have a digital slider in small quantities that WILL drive the Mark III well enough to run below 1 and up to 40 +. No counter needed, it just shows channel number and tunes one-half channel (5 kHz) per click. 32 below to channel 96. I'm not crass enough to hawk price and delivery, or a web page on Copper's forum. They don't sell sliders, but it would still be bad manners. Email me if you're interested. I'll reply with a link to a web page with some pictures.
73 |
Hoosiercardinal
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 1:19 am: |
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Get a Glen digital VFO.... Thats what i have and it works for me! |
Flybynight
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 7:15 pm: |
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I finally put a VFO on this radio and it seem's to be working great.Like i said,i was looking for the easiest and cheapest way to go.Since this wasnt my main radio i use i wasnt gonna put a whole lot of money into it.I do want to thank all of you for the great information.Now i'll move on to my next project which concern's mobile radio's. |
Grumpy8220
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 9:04 am: |
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Flybynight,
Which VFO did you finally put on the Browning? I have a Browning myself, Just wondering...
Grumpy |
Flybynight
| | Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 4:16 am: |
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Grumpy8220,i put a Glen VFO on it.Does a lot better than what i thought it would. |
Browningboy
| | Posted on Friday, July 04, 2003 - 7:41 pm: |
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To all you Browning and Tram guys looking for a VFO or Slider for your rigs why waist your time with those glens and sillies they always drift on ssb and have heat and unstability problems my personal tech in Indiana makes his own Al Ken 858 Digital controllers and let me tell you the work and craftsman ship on these is the best we've seen in a real long time they will fit most any browning and do come with the tphlon cable instructions and bible.I use 1 of these on my browning line up and it's the best drives much better than those glens and sillies and is only 150.00 plus shipping take a look fr yourself at tubesplus.com his name is Alan tell em John in R.I. ent you MARK MY WORDS YOU WONT BE DISAPOINTED I WASN"T !!!!!They have a 10kc + & - switch and the +channles/cb/- channles and the read out is bright big and supperb they are in a pal vfo box with or without woodgrain for your Brownins so check that out for cheap$$$$$$and an easy fix John BT 634 BrowningBoy101 in R.I. |
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