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MrCowboy
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello all,


Of all the newer radios on the market currently, which radio do you feel has the best receive (meaning plenty of "high-gain" receive, but "low-noise" heavy filtered receive as well). This is all important, to hear the most distant stations out there.
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Barefoot
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lincoln!!
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Alsworld
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Lincoln defintely has a nice receive. The Delta Force is a little noisy, but you have more control (RF Gain, Tone and NB options) to quiet it down (The Lincoln has a great NB for mobile use, i.e. minor alternator noise).

But, I haven't listened to many other radios out there with the advertised noise filtering stuff (Cobra Soundtracker, Uniden DSP or whatever it is...) to give you much more than that. I haven't owned a Ranger (yet?) so I won't compare speculatively.

Overall, the quietest, easiest to listen to receive that I don't think I missed anything was on the Lincoln. My personal experiences anyway.

Alsworld
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MrCowboy
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do you all think the Lincoln's Receive is both more sensitive yet less noise than say a newer Ranger 2950DX??
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bruce
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 3:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HEATHKIT CB-1 !
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bruce
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 3:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HE HE HE ok i was kidding ..... I just got a lincoln from copper and it is VERY nice on SSB also i just got the chipswitch kit and will mod it so i can use it on the local/ DX 10 meter repeaters Simply it is for what it was made for a well thought out radio unless your a FM guy ..... and the chip should fix that .....as for am/ssb its a 9.9 out of 10 .... get one !
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Sparkomatic
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lincoln.........I got to agree. My 4800 is great but the Lincoln has a sharp receive tone to it.
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Galaxyraider
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 1:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have not listened to all the radios out their. But my lincoln has to be #1. It doesn't have a lot of the features that some of the others do but when it pulls weak signals in with very little background noise it's just clean clear audio,impressive.
The unit is so quiet I hardly ever use the NB on base. It has that old time ability to dial up or down by freg. to tune in stations that are off freq. on AM or SSB.
Selectivity is extremly good. with two stations talking at the same time if their off feq. from each other you can tune one or the other out based on sig. strength. This can be annoying if your listening to two stations on SSB that are 1 to 2Khz apart. To listen to both sometimes I have to slide freq. or clarifier back and forth.
The scanning feature has a 1.5 sec. scan delay and is nice. But my Uniden Mobile has a better scan delay that is longer.
Freq. stability is very good. I havn't detected any drift from turn on cold to warmed up. But thats inside as a base unit.
The Xmit. is good and clean on both AM and SSB even with the stock mike modulation is OK. If you want power as a stock unit it gets out well. But for Dx work an Amp. will help it.
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Kd4amg
Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 7:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the old MIdland 23 channel mobiles were very quiet ( 13 - 882 and other simple 23 channel cb mobiles ).. they heard the stations with out the motor noise that other radios seemed to not get rid of
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mikefromms
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 6:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My old JCPenny mobile has a little better ears than my Lincoln. Of course that's just to my ear. The Lincoln is a very sensitive and quiet running radio. The NB really works a job on motor noise! It looks good under the dash too.

mikefromms
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Kc0gxz
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 3:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MrCowboy

The HR-2510 and the Lincoln has always been at the top of the list as far as receivers go.

The Ranger 2950DX?? Come on! Their cross-rejection is so poor that Ranger even offers a after-market kit to tighten it up. Great SSB transmitter though.

As much as I love the old RCI-2950s and 70s, from day one they've never been able to couple their good transmitter with a tight receiver.

I always wanted to see a 10 Meter radio built that has a transmitter as good as the 2950 and a receiver equal to or better than the 2510/Lincoln all in the same cabinet. I'm still waiting.

Jeff, kc0gxz.
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Bruce
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 8:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A modified lincoln is one of the best radios out there stable low noise great of fm/ssb. Now what i would like to see ( MY OPINION ) is the FCC to back off of banning wide coverage cb radios since that has done little to stop freebanding but forces a cb user to make a choice or even buy 2 radios A prom could be used to make a radio leagal on the 40 cb channles while the rest of the set could be a ham radio like a alinco dx-70 just think 160-6 + cb leagaly. I would buy one
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RCI 2990
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 3:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like my 2970 DX but just because it is kinda lame on the receiver dept doesnt mean im gonnna go and sell mine and get a Lincoln. If there is a kit that can tighten upo the RX a little im game for it.. But yes it has a great TR on AM and SSB. its loud like i want a radio to be!
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Crafter
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 12:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My old cobra 2000 had the best recieve ever heard.
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Kc0gxz
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 8:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Crafter

Yes, I agree. For a CB radio, that board was probably the best that Uniden ever designed for a CB radio. It's even tighter than some 10 Meter radios.

Jeff, kc0gxz.
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Bruce
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 7:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just my opinion
Grant Lt has a very good receiver it would be my pick. Now my 75 wx cobra...everything in the mike radio stinks. I have a midland 115 that i had to replace a bad 455khz if filter so i used a channel guard it has one of the better receivers but AM only.... some of the late 70's early 80's radioshacks were suprizing good......as were rosdtalkers. Dewald in the early 60 made a line of radios for there day not bad but today a joke....lots of radios out there lots of choices just a few bad ones.
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RCI 2990
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 1:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cobra 142 GTL the 2000 and the Uniden Madison have my vote.. Best ears for CB radios hands down!!!!!
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Stickshift
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 3:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes indeed the 142 has a great reciever. I should have never sold mine! My Washington is also pretty good. As far as 10 meters go, I had a 2510 that recieved pretty good. I had my emperor long before the 2510 and believe the reciever was better than the 2510. I sold the 2510 after owning it a year. It was a good radio, but the frequency counter was too small. I still prefer the emperor for ssb/fm.

73's
stickshift
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Stickshift
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 3:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes indeed the 142 has a great reciever. I should have never sold mine! My Washington is also pretty good. As far as 10 meters go, I had a 2510 that recieved pretty good. I had my emperor long before the 2510 and believe the reciever was better than the 2510. I sold the 2510 after owning it a year. It was a good radio, but the frequency counter was too small. I still prefer the emperor for ssb/fm.

73's
stickshift
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Znut
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 5:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Strictly CB? Of those I've had the TRC 451 had the best rec. It is the same as the Cobra 146 and Sears Roadtalker w/SSB. That was the first radio I had which would let me in the action on ch 38lsb because the TX on SSB was stable and the RX was outstanding! It helped that it would do 30 watts on SSB (for a few months.)

By the way, does anyone recommend a replacement for the final that can handle what the board can dish out?
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Crafter
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 7:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorta funny we all are promoting basically 2 chassis, As for a 10m rig would have to go with my 2510, it was outstanding.
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RCI 2990
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a realistic (LOL!) TRC 458 once that i bought MIB off a local Cber.. It had outstanding TX on SSB and AM! The reciver was just as good as my Cobra 2000 and my Ranger 2527 that i had at that time.. I should have kept that 458 it even had the original box, foam and the owners manual..... Cool old radio! :-)
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Kc0gxz
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 3:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce

I have to agree with you. Cobra hasn't had a decent radio since they left Uniden. The Grant is a far better radio today than the Chinese made Cobra-148s. You can even see that just by comparing the boards, componets, and feeling the smoothness of the controls.

In my opinion, Cobra went right down the tubes when they decided to leave Uniden and search for a company that would build their radios cheaper. Cobra survives ONLY on their name alone.

Anything built by/for Uniden HAS to have high quality control standards. To the best of my knowledge, Uniden couldn't find that in China.

Jeff, kc0gxz.
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Bruce
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 8:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have been very disapointed in the remote radio sure its fine for casual installs but receiver is JUNK. Now my grant lt is very nice only problem is it overloads a bit easy otherwise hot and stable.
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Topten
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 7:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Long ago I once had a AM/SSB GE Super Base, it was the best reciever with the lowest noise of any radio that I have ever used. Now I'm kicking myself for having sold it. :-(
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Sparkomatic
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 6:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cobra 2000 GTL/148 GTL hands down........best receive and audio.
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Radiodude
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 8:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

By far the best rx radio I have is my Lafayette SSB 140!! It is very quiet on RX and really hears those dx stations.
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mikefromms
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What about the new boards like those advertised as "next generation" like the reciever on the DX 2517 or 2995dx

mikefromms
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Radiodude
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 9:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well now that I have had my 2995dx for about 1 week I find that it has a very good rx. I have found that the RF gain nob is a bit touchy. When you turn it counter clock wise it shuts the rx down WAY befor it is fully to the left! Maybe the nob is not on right!! WOW what a radio, it is very bleedover resistant, and talks like well there is nothing to compare it with!!!
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mikefromms
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 5:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just got and talked on for hours a new dx 2517 and I can truly say it has better ears than my Lincoln ever had. In fact, it has better ears than any radio I've owned period, if my memory serve me correctly. It has opened up a brand new world. What a radio. I'm glad I didn't buy another mobile to go on the power supply. This radio is the best I've ever owned including the Cobra 2000 I owned one time.

mikefromms
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Barefoot
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 7:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you want to sell Lincoln , please email me.
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Waverider
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 2:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Of all the radios I preasently have the Grant (older one) may be the best. My Washington isn't bad and I'm taking my 6900F Ranger inside to see how it does as a base station. It seems to have a pretty hot receiver but it isn't real guiet. Right now the hands down winner in my shack is my MarkIII Eagle. It just got a good tune up and it was not cheap (just ask my wife) but well worth it. Beautiful audio and I can hear a fly fart three states away!!!!!!!!!!!
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Gezus306
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 1:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I disagree. ( on the Lincoln) unless there is
a problem with mine. My receive is not the
best and I also find the " Noise blanker" is
useless. Mine seems to not work at all.
I have a old Uniden PC244 and it is much
better on the SSB recieve.
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Bruce
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 4:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gezus

Youve got a bad radio or someone runned it. The noise blanker in a lincoln works great and with standard mods the reciver is as good as some low end ham rigs. When i was finshed i tested mine on a $20,000 generator so I know what it did. Sorry but yours is a sick puppy.
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307
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kenwood TS-850SAT

307
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Crafter
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like the old stuff, I'll say siltronix 1011d. Although the yeasu 990 is very nice.
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Mark Abernathy
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 1:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a Radio Shack TRC-446 - please don't laugh :-)

Can that radio be tuned and peaked?? I would be interested in getting it fixed up. Also where would I find the mods for that model?

Is it worth a darn?

Any suggestions of an amplifier to use with it (under $200 please)

Thanks in advance for any helpful info!
~mark
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Bruce
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 1:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

307 WISEGUY....... HE HE!
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Foxracing
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 7:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MY 2950DX.. I THINK HAS GOOD RECIEVE. BETTER THAN MY GALAXY DX55V.
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Barefoot
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 7:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would put my 2950DX in the WORST recive category!
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Stickshift
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 1:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The siltronix are fair when there isn't any interference like ignition noise from vehicles with points type distributors or electric fences around. The radio has no noise blanker and the ANL is pretty much worthless, it only muffles the tone a bit.
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Bruce
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 2:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

barefoot on fm i agree not real good
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Barefoot
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 6:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce,

If they could do something with the 2950DX receive it would be the best radio in it's class!! The 2950DX has great features and transmits like a bear but thats where it ends.
Just turning it on you get about four bars of noise.I'm going to run mine with a HR-2510 in my car on a AS-100 antenna switch.
I'll transmit on the RCI and receive on the 2510!
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Phineas
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 1:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

307

You obviously have never heard the receive on one of the new Yaesu radios. Puts the kenwoods to shame. Anyhow, who would use an kenwood on CB :P

I agree with most people on here that the HR2510(Lincoln) has the best receive I have ever heard for any CB mobile radio. The 2950dx is cool, but you have to adjust it, and it SCREAMS for a preamp. Over all, I still like the 2950dx better than the hr2510.

Phineas
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Nlmadog
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 9:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am running a Kenwood TS 440,love it.Like it alot better than the FT 101ZD and Mark III Eagle and what's up with Siltronix 1011D ? Junk piles
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Stickshift
Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 3:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Siltronix receiver is fair when properly tuned. My only complaint is the ANL. It really doesn't do anything more than take the high end of the tone away. A couple friends own the ts-440's and say the receivers aren't as good as the hr-2510's and Emperor's. One of them put his 440 back in the box and replaced it with a ts-50. The audio tone and punch is as good as the 440 and the receive is much better. However, I would take a 440 over my FT-757GX any day of the week!
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Nlmadog
Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree Stickshift,757 not the best ears,I can not comment on Lincoln,never been around one.I started in the sixites and have owned most tube rigs worth having.Decided to get back into radio last year after not picking up a mike for 25 years.Bought some tube radios I understood and started to get up to speed on the new stuff. Picked up a 757 after playing with the 101ZD,the Ham Boards really talk up the Kenwood rigs.The 440 is the best so far all around.The tube stuff is fun but way out classed by the newer rigs.Been thinking about getting a Lincoln just to see what everyone keeps ranting about must be some rig!Love this site,best so far for info.
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Bruce
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 7:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry but the 1011d is not a well designed radio.
The swan 250 ( AKA SWAN TOO DRIFTY ) and its brothers fall into this group too. Poor radios even in its day the only clame to fame is it was VFO controled ( and drifts like crazy ) and ran 100 or so watts. Radios like the ft-840 can be bought for 500 used and will sit for hours with no real drift so why bother with 30 year old poorly designed junk. There are many radios out there that do a good job the grantLT the dx-959 LEAGAL cb sets and export/10 meter radios like the lincoln, mag 257 and 2950dx. My lincoln when moded drifted less that 200 hz and recevier sens was under .2UV not too shabby!
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Pig040
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My Kenwood 850 has a great recieve, didnt realize all the things I wasnt hearing on my beloved Yaesu 101, my Cobra 2000 has a decent recieve also.
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Stickshift
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 1:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well of course the swans and siltronix WILL drift. They are tube radios and we all know that tubers drift. Mine is stable after a half hour or so. Anyway, that is not my complaint. Call it junk if you want, but I've had better reports on my siltonix than ANYTHING else I've ever had! That alone is sufficant evidence for me to KEEP the siltronix. I accept ANYONES arguments towards siltronix but will stand behind my old drift machine until it is no more! As for Ranger and Galaxy radios, they are overpriced junk in my book.
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Nlmadog
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do not want to get anyones shorts in a bunch but this 1011D leaves me wondering what the hype was all about. I agree on the transmit,good old tube decent output but the front end leaves alot to be desired.My orginal Eagle Mark II walks all over the receive.The Imperials are at least a notch above the 1011D.I do like the 101ZD but I agree with the majority of the reviews claiming superior receive on Kenwood.My old Courier 23 plus does well on receive compared to the 1011D.
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Stickshift
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Agreed, the 1011's are easily overloaded by strong, nearby signals. There is only 1 other operator here in town and I switch radios when he jumps aboard. For anything a couple miles out and further I have no problems and tend to use the 1011 quite a bit more.
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Bruce
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 4:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guys it's like this MANY tube radios DO NOT DRIFT I have own a Drake 4 line very nice radios no real drift My ELDICO ( collins clone ) Very stable my HT-37 rock solid but all these were ment for a CW ham world and drift was unacceptble.
The 1011 radio was the export radio of its day and the game was the VFO to get the extra frequencys and high power not a quailty radio. The Swan 350 and infamous 6 meter 250 are at best ok but would i tell you to buy one HECK NO! Save your money and buy something proven ..... like a ft-840 a IC-718 or a Ic-706 ......or even a TS-2000.
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Stickshift
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Already have an IC-706MKIIG. I WILL STILL USE THE SILTRONIX. As I said earlier, I get better audio reports with the Siltronix than I do with ANYTHING else I have. That is proof enough for me to USE IT. I'm not gonna jump on the bandwagon just because someone tells me something. I did not buy the Siltronix because someone told me to. I bought it because I WANTED IT! It works, I use it, I am happy. End of story.
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Bruce
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stick im with you i buy things because i want them too. I dont DISLIKE a 1011 or a 250 or a 350 i just look at them from a techinal point of view.
As for audio reports my FT-840 is the one radio i get clean audio reports all modes all the time.
Some new radios do lack in how they sound and on am they are almost junk but how much am is left out there? Never take what im saying wrong but when viewed from the HAM view i think you will find most will agree with what i said.
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Cm3885
Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 2:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Now you guys can call me dumb, say i dont klnow what im talking about or whatever but for receive i like my RCI 2970 DX and my 2995 both have GREAT audio receive. I run my 2970 DX in my mobile and yes it pick up more noise but it does pick out the weak signals. As for the Siltronix 1011 its an OK rig for a tubie. A CB local used to use one and i liked the way it sounded on AM and SSB. When he got it all tuned up and on freq that radio BARKED!!!!. Sorry Bruce but i side up with Stickshift.... LOL
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Bruce
Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 5:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A 1011d agaist my ft-840 or ft-100d on 28.360 for 24 hours measure drift ....... hummmmmmmm? my ft-840 runs about 40 hz drift over a 4 hour time if you can beleve the audio frequency output aganst wwv on 10 mhz.......

I know freebanders like them they look cool big lots of knobs and runs 100 watts....
Cm.... the Swan/Siltronix radios are fair at best and are treated so by hams It's sister radio the infamous Swan 250 ....AKA too drifty. Not that they dont work they do but common if they were any good do you realy think they would be concidered anything but a beginers radio today? LOOK AT DRAKE TR-4? ( i had a r4-b/t4-xb in 1970 ) same time late 60's STILL concidered a good radio .... mine was so good i used it for MOONBOUNCE CW WORK ( 500 hz bandwidth into a 50 hz filter ) YEP even the TR-4 was a good CW radio! I have a HQ-140 reciver it's cool too big lots of knobs an't worth much as a ssb set on 10 meters. I just had to resond to your comments remember a good radio will stand the test of time like a KWM-2 they were made starting in the 50's and still are a very good radio today.
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HR2510
Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 3:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

FT-840 is a sweet rig and the good thing about it is it's basic not 101 knobs to screw with.
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Bruce
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You got that right LOVE my DECKED OUT FT-840!
AM FM CW and SSB filters/boards installed HIGH stablity osc ........and external AUDIO DSP!
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Fellas, been on the air forty years, have run ham rigs on 11 meters also 2510, 2950. But for outstanding receive I'll stick with the top end Uniden sidebanders such as the cobra 2000GTL have had one in the past, now I run a Uniden Grant XL decked out like a lot of you guys have never seen, I myself hadn't seen one as good until I ran across the one I have now, also run it with a receiver preamp, but a lot of the time I don't need to use it, the Uniden rigs also have super transmit audio, eat your hearts out I also own a President Washington with the UPD858PLL and the receive on that is a little better than the Grant XL, plus the Washington doesn't look anything like it's age of 28 years old
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THis post turned into a who has the most impressive equipment thread real quick. Strange that when people talk about what has the best very quickly turns into "what I have is the best"
That doesn't provide much for a reasonable answer to a real question.
I like the receive on my TRC 449 and the receive on the TRC 485. My Teaberry rates right up there with them. Low noise and great receive has to go to the Cobra 148 GTL. I don't own the Cobra 2000, but am told that they have the same board. So I would imagine that they have same quality receive.
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Bruce
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I found the grant LT to be as good as any and the midland 75-115 to be junk.
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2000gtl great;w/channel guard,excellent:-)
also i like my dx2547 w/channel guard;actually
has better RX than any of my 3-2000gtl's.
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my Dx2547 Has by far the best rx I have ever seen with the exception of the 2000GTL.

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I do not own, but have heard the Cobra 2000 GTL on receive. They are very good.

I wish that I owned one.
I have 29 11 meter units now. There is definitly a difference in receive. I run the same Imax 2000, same meter and same coax on all radios with a switch.(not all are connected at same time. But all are operational and in my shack) I prefer the Uniden President, TRC 485. The 485 has better rejection. I have two TRC 449's that do extremely well. The Cobra 138 XLR is good. Just purchased a Cobra 148 GTL. Old version. Hasn't arrived as of yet. But looking forward to comparing.
73
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I have a magnum S3 in the big truck and a wilson 5000 antenae with 18 ft of good wire. It was set up by Bob F. It seems to listen forever. I was in Iowa yesterday and talked over 80 miles. I had the power set only half way up. I'm no radio expert by no means, but the S3 is a keeper.
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I have a Uniden Washington with a Imax ,the recieve is really good.The Uniden seems to recieve better than my Presidents.
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i must say as far as recive the lincoln has
superior recive
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I have a President HR2510........fair recieve

I think the old Cobra 2000GTL's and even the older 148GTL's were among the best ever
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Looking back to my post of February 15, 2004 on this issue. that post tells my whole story, The Cobra 2000, older 148, and Grant XL are in a class all their own. Take a look at my photos in Post your pictures here.
73, Carl CEF-357
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Yankee ......


In its day my HE-15B was the cats meow but a $39 cobra could out do it by at least 10 to 1
I always question " 23's were better or they just are not as good as the Heath CB-1 " since logic tells you that a much better radio can be built for a fraction of the price ........

"The Cobra 2000, older 148, and Grant XL are in a class all their own."

So was a polycomm ..... and the ones with the collins filter most ham rigs of its day could not touch. But its still 45 year old junk and technolgy has left them in the dust ..... and history books.

There are many radios out there lots to chose from and manys are as good or better than anything made in the days of part 19.
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Cm3885 I agree 100%, and the TX sounds great.

There are some who have really slammed this radio.
Some have said the receive is poor because the RX isn't tight. Maybe, but I haven't had any more problems with receive splatter than I did with my old Cobra 148 GTL, and it sounds better on TX than my 148 did.

I understand a 40 channel C.B. might not have as much splatter on the RX since it only covers a fraction of the bandwidth. But since I've been using mine as a Base radio that really has not been a problem for me. I don’t like the FM side of the radio much, but on SSB it plain kicks butt.
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I might have to eat some of my words here. There was a robot station on 10 meters not too far from me conducting a 10 meter DX contest that was bleeding over about from 28370 to 28430. I was up there listening. I don't know how many watts he was running, but he was extremely loud! and though the audio wasn't bleeding over the signal was causing the meter to bounce a few channels each way from him.
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Bruce
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bob ? +/- 30 khz he needs to be told .....
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SBE Console V has the best receive by far!!!
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OK for the last week ive been running my Lincoln and my 2995DX and i cant see any diff in the recive !!!
But with the TeaBerry stalker XV i have more noise and cant hear as good !!! but i think the antenna is want makes it all !!! good antenna setup will make a 5 dollar radio sound like a 300 dollar radio !!!! Just my 2cent !!!
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Allagator I am really glad to hear you have those two radios to run a comparison with. As I said before I can compare the 2970DX with the Cobra 148 GTL that was made in the P.I. and can honestly say the 2970DX hears everything the Cobra does, and more. The receive is sharp, and someone said that it hears more white noise, but it is also more sensitive hearing stations that I might not have heard with the Cobra.

The guy running the robot DX 10 meter setup I heard I'm sure was running way over the legal power limit for that part of the band. But I have never had anyone splatter me like that before.

I haven't been back into radio very long but really like my 2970DX, and if my next radio isn't an HF rig, it will be an RCI 2995DX and I'll be putting the 2970DX in the truck.
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I would have to say the radio I ever had was a Cobra 1000 it was a base am man did it have ears. I wish I had never sold it
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From Bruce-- "So was a polycomm ..... and the ones with the collins filter most ham rigs of its day could not touch. But its still 45 year old junk and technolgy has left them in the dust ..... and history books."
Wow Bruce! There's a name I havent heard in awhile. My dad used to have a couple Polycomms. When I got back into radio in the early 80's, I re-tubed his Polycomm Senior (seems like 12 or 15 tubes??). Man ...was that a nice radio! Had a 'ringer' on it too if I remember..that would send a tone to another Polycomm (although I never tried it). The message light would light up and you knew someone was trying to message you, but you had to be in the 'message mode'....kinda foggy on my mind...but it was something like that. Ended up giving it to an old CB'er friend. He was very fond of it and he was a wonderful mentor to me. He died years later and I never saw the rig again. But man it was "the rig" in it's day...or so I was told.
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I had a poly 6 a poly 2 and a poly 6 and 2 like you said they must have had 20 tubes each! ....
Now here is the polycoms secret ...... 19 of them didnt go any where ......... Ok im kidding! Great but VERY LARGE radios! Yes they had a plug in selective call box that allowed you to open up another poly ..... like 2 meter radios do to repeaters today using TONE.
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AR3500 hands down no questions asked, right here and now, compared to all others in my shack,maco 5/8 antenna, CANNOT even hear 'lt columbo near the brooklyn bridge' on am 26.835 on my grant xl, cobra 148, ft101e, or rci6900, can hear his audio w/ little if any meter movement on delta and s9, and grant lt, low audio s1-3 on johnson viking 4740, but on my 3500, his signal is s3-5 and he sounds fine, no straining my ears whatsoever he is legitimately 'in there'. that is a 60 mile straight trip w/ some dx from rocky mtns coming thru. this is no quiet area, we are talking NYC and its suburbs, lots of noise, 60 miles isn't 'local' here like it may be in rural areas, even 15 miles can be tough to talk at times on reg 40.
AR3500 is best receiving $500 or less radio i've ever had.
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Patzerozero......

Intresting I looked at the schmatic for that ar3500 it's frount end is almost the same as the Grant LT. Now adding the channel guard to a grant kills splatter at 2 or more channels away i wonder how your Grant LT would do if you had a guard in it ...... also changing to a 2999 reciever rf stage transistor..... adds about 1 "S" unit of gain. My vote is a grant LT as far as LEAGAL cb sets is hard to beat!
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never before noticed a difference between grant xl and lt's receivers. it was a NOTICEABLE difference for that matter. maybe losses in my jumpers or antenna switch, maybe a monday radio and a friday radio, don't know. i've not installed channel guard in either grant, but reception on my particular ar3500 at least has always been exceptional. no fancy test equipment, just the type of comparison i did the other day and have done that comparison with that radio both base and mobile numerous times and nobody has ever failed to be impressed with the rcvr of MY unmodified 3500. and its 'white' rcvr noise is NONEXISTANT, when band is dead, you'd think radio is squelched it's so quiet. will have to try the 2999, i assume you mean on the grant, any idea which trans or approx location off hand? what about in the 3500, or is that difference in the "almost the same" ?
and yes, legal cb i do agree w/grant, that's why i have it!
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Patzerozero

The RF and mixer stages of any radio are the key .... the lower noise and higher gain they are the better the radio will work. Remember a well designed rf/mixer stage will provide 30 db of gain that means your radio now has a good start when you have to induse losses like filters and bandpass filters. The " white noise " is NOISE being boosted by the gain of the next stage which adds its OWN noise. If i could find and use VERY LOW NOISE VERY HIGH GAIN transistors in a radio and replace the cheep noisey ones you could see a remarkable drop in noise and increase in gain ........ however there are other problems such as the cutoff cirves of each transistor and how that would effect AGC. The lincoln/grant receiver RF stage mode using a 2999 class transistor works wonders om my lincoln it made a diffrence between almost .4UV and .2UV at 10 db S/N. I build low noise conveters for 10, 6, 2 and 440 bands for years a old but good devise was the RCA 40673 dual gate mosfet ( no longer made ) it was amazing how you could take a old WW2 radio like a BC-348 and put a converter in frount of it and it was as good as many of the ham radios of its day. Yep experiment that what makes thisgs fun that grant is one fine radio to build on.
 bc348 with conveter
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One of the best receive sounding radios I had was an old Courier 23 which was a tube radio. wish i still had it
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Just curious, but how would you rate the Magnum S3/S9 against the best of the rest??
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Gumball,

Not sure what the Best of the Rest is but it get's a BIG #1 Here.

But then again NONE of the other radios have the TOP GUN BOARD in them or the Features that the S-9 has.

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cool Bruce, I am actually going to do the 2999 mod this week to my 148 gtl once the transistor comes in the mail. Actually its a NTE 107 . I can't find a 2999 anywhere and was told the NTE 107 is comparable. I have a question about this mod since it improves gain, will it receive more bleedover? basically bleedover isn't a problem for me since out here in the country there isn't anyone close, but just wondering. Another question what would it do if I ever ran the radio in the car would it pick up more engine noise? thanks
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Bruce
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i sent you a email but the mod will increase readabilty of very weak signals as for splatter i sent a photo of a simple ch guard mod on my grant i would have posted it here but my internet firewall is making posting photos very hard right now
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Thanks Bruce, I kinda doubt I will need the channel guard out here in the country no one ever bleeds me. unless someone moves in close to my house..... if I ever do need one.. did you make the guard? Maybe I can make one. ...I'll post later this week or weekend how the mod went when the transistor gets here and I get it in.
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With my Navaho base(432) and an antron99, I have better ears than my buddy down the block with a Yaesu and a V5/8 antenna.... I was pleasantly surprised.
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what's the difference in height between the two antennas?
matt
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Bruce
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Realy .... which yaesu does he have? I would like to see that. I had the 432 not a bad radio but no YAESU.

VERY INTERESTING .....
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I've got a rci6900f150 and the rx is to open. Distortes really bad when radio's get's to close.
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Best not only receive but transmit 11 meter radios I ever owned was a CPI (Communications Power INC.) 2000 base, A CPI 400 Mobile built in the mid to late 70's
It was ALL American built in Sunnyvale California and a radio far ahead of it's time
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cobra2000 gtl /cobra 148 gtl [old style]
uniden washington/uniden grant'
these are the best ive owned .there maybe better
ones but i havent found it yet.
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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I've just bought a Galaxy DX 979 and it's got some very good ears.

73's
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I see this is an old thread, but I can tell you the WORST receive I've ever heard is on my Uniden Pro538w. It's a strong receive but it doesn't do much good with how strong and loud the noise is. With no ANL/NB or apparently any filtering of any kind, the only way to use it is the right combination of RF gain and squelch- not much use for weak signals. On a side note, I have a Uniden Pro538w for sale. :D
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MY MAGNUM S 9 HAS MUCH BETTER RECIEVE THAN MY LINCOLN !!!!! NO QUESTION!!!!!!

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