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Bruce
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 2:43 pm: | 
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Well here it is the first of many!
http://www.flex-radio.com/
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Ca346
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 5:55 pm: |
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Yeah but where's the KNOBS to tweak & fondle? |
Bruce
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 7:50 pm: |
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Im with you no fun if you cant ALIGN things and turn knobe |
Ca346
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 2:38 pm: |
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Exactly. I need to be adjusting stuff all the time. I know as you say, it is probably the radio of the future for alot of people, but not me. Course, I said that of the "debit card". Didn't need it. Don't want it. Won't use it. Now I use the debit card instead of cash. Gas, groceries, instantly broke. |
Scrapiron63
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 4:03 pm: |
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Yeah I like those "knobs", but I don't tweak on'em as much as I use to, just window dressing now more or less. hehe |
Ca346
| | Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 3:27 pm: |
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Scrap:
Been thinking for 24hrs how to respond to that.... Can't come up with anything... I'm sure someone will... |
Bruce
| | Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 7:26 pm: |
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hummmmm scrap looks like we are getting to the point that it takes all night to do what we did all night..... |
Scrapiron63
| | Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:01 pm: |
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ha, you got it right Bruce. |
Ca346
| | Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 10:54 pm: |
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Told you... |
Ss8541
| | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 9:45 pm: |
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no, its not the 1st, but it is -one- example. the guys at thales and zanu have been working on this for some time for public service radios. the thales MBITR looks like a standard walkie but gives the operator the option of switching the 'waveform''software package' between analog fm, project 25, M/ACOM, edacs, motorola smartnet, etc. vanu has its sdr on a compaq iPAQ platform(pocket pc). it basically performs the same functions as the thales prototype. both give the operator the ability to 'talk' to anyone, no matter what 'waveform' type they are using. neither are 'type-certified' yet.
and bruce if you remember the icom discussion we had some time back that i backed out of quietly, you will see some similarities, like the statement you made about sdr being on a dream bench somewhere. doesn't seem to be on a dream bench now does it?
anyway, back to the similarities. the icoms -can- switch -platforms-(lmr or pmr) the 'waveforms' are changed, but an external pc is needed. with these radios that pc is built into them, and more 'waveforms' can be switched by the operator themselves. they are also capable of uprades, like some of the icoms that can be 'flashed'. so while the icoms are not true sdr, they can't be dismissed as standard radios either.
i don't do anything with any of the waveforms mentioned above besides a little work with ltr(logic trunking radio) so i can't say a whole lot. i am from a small area in nc, so those high speed, low drag systems are not here and will not be for some time. what i know is from what i read in making sure i keep up with my career.
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Bullet
| | Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 12:37 am: |
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hey richard how's it going down there?
do you still hear from john m.
later bullet |
Bruce
| | Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 8:18 am: |
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8541
I atempt to keep up with all of this but as you know by the time it hits the trade mags its old news. The bottom line is these are in the development stages and will be industry standards one day Just like PLL and computer programing replaced crystals. The whole field realy could make a one radio fits all dream happen so tell you what when i get my HT and i program it up for all the ham repeaters AND your trunking system AND MURS AND FRS and GMRS AND IS LEAGAL ! I'l stop by and we 'll have lunch ..... sound good? |
Ca346
| | Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 6:56 pm: |
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You can stop by here and buy me lunch any day of the week BRUCE....
8541:
Which ICOMS can be flash up-graded? Probably the 756 and 746 but not the 706? |
Ss8541
| | Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 10:51 pm: |
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bullet,
i think j.m. has said, 'datat, datat..thats all folks' to radio. at least it seems that way. to answer, your question, i haven't talked to him in some time. its hard to when no one answers the phone or returns phone calls. so i stopped trying about 4-5mo ago.
bruce,
when that time comes, call me on the lumberton nc 2mtr machine(147.045).....have a few lobster tails and a rollng rock or 12 on hand. call sign is kg4aij. oh yeah, most importantly, make sure all echo boards and roger beeps are turned -ON-. the guys here prefer that you run 5-tone r.beeps. instead of using pl(ctcss) on this machine, they use echo as the pl. if echo is not detected, the rptr will not re-tx.
ca346,
i don't know if any of the amateur icoms can be upgraded. i don't do anything with them. i wanted to deal both their amateur and business lines, but icom wanted me to make something like a $30k 1st time order to be an amateur dealer.
anyway, the ones that i know are flash upgradeable are the f30/f40 series. i think the f3/f4 models may be also, but i am not sure. as far as i know there hasn't been any flash releases for any model, so i haven't really paid much attention to which ones can and cant' be. |
Ca346
| | Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 11:25 pm: |
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8541:
Okay. Thanks for the response. I know some of radio's like TEN-TEC do advertise a flash up-grade.
At $30k for the first order, ICOM is sure limiting their dealers to big banana's ONLY. |
Ss8541
| | Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 1:30 pm: |
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they aren't the only ones. i had another ham come into my shop and told me that he had once looked at opening a ham radio store, and was told by icom, yaesu, and kenwood the same thing. i only had to put up $5k to be a business band dealer for icom. for the motorola parts and accessories dealership, i only had to put up $1000. they wanted me to commit to 25 radios per month to be a 2-way dealer. yeah, right, icom (in my opinion) is a better radio at a cheaper price(this opinion is also based on the systems in use in my area). i only became a motorola parts and accessories dealer to service the many motorola radios in use in my area(thanks to my former employer who put them out there). but that is now changing that there is an icom dealer in the area.
the funny thing is now that i am a icom business band dealer, if i call and ask for amateur radio prices, they give them to me. obviously my dealer # works for everything that icom sales.
i'm not really sure what any of these guys reasoning is to such a high 1st order. all i know is that if i'm putting up $30k, it isn't going to be into a hobby who's #'s are getting smaller and smaller. |
Bruce
| | Posted on Monday, November 24, 2003 - 8:23 am: |
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8541
ROGER ( ECCO ) DOGGER
I get my ecco board going in my regency hr-2 and get a dandy power mike with voice changer and 5 CTCSS tone roger beep..... you dont think they will mind if the regency changes frequency with alt voltage or has a 2khz whine that changes with my car speed do you? Ok on 147.045 i got several 146.97 crystals and a box of borax power i'll get to grinding them and placing a pressure screw in the ft-243 cases for fine tuning them..... love this old technolgy stuff..... I dont know of any flash for f3/4 we now have 1400 of them here but it looks like next buy will be the newer models thats next fiscal year.... as for ham icoms right now the ic2th sport is 79-89 bucks on sale hard to make money on that but a great buy for the consumer a GREAT radio.
Bruce |
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