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Makitaman60
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 3:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a PS12K Power supply that the protection light comes on when a load is applied.I thought it would reset after awhile but it never happen.If anyone has had this problem before please fill me in.I would sure like to get it working again.
Thank's
Makitaman60
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Ajm1571
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Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 8:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hmmm that is weird. mine had a reset button in the back and all I had to do was push it and it reset itself. You may be tryin to put to big of a load on it. Other than that I am not sure.

Allen
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Yankee
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Post Number: 353
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 8:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Depends on what you're using the supply for. The PS-12 only puts out about 9-10 amps. and not rated to run anything larger than a sideband radio transmiting at 12 watts legal power. Although it could be shorted.
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Kid_vicious
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Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 9:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i dont know about that yankee; most ssb base station power supplies only put out between 3 to 4 amps. and they run 12 watts out from the factory. i wonder if one of the techs would be kind enough to post the formula for the current requirement for a given wattage out.
matt


tech noteP=ExI
P=watts
E=volts
I=amps
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Jp1116
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Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have you checked your 2N3055 transistors yet? Not sure if you have the schematic so I sent it to you just in case. I've found these to be more of a problem in the small supplies than the regulator. Did you get any further on the 350Z?
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Yankee
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Post Number: 354
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Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, but sideband mobiles most times have a 4 or 5 amp. inline fuse, therefore a 10 amp. power supply gives a 12 volt sideband rig enough head room to properly operate at it's full 12 watts. I just checked and My stock powered Uniden Grant XL with a Silver Eagle peaks 15 watts and draws around 5 1/2 amps. on maximum audio swing, and yes I checked the power draw with a volt/ohm meter. and my power supply has an amp. meter on it and is set at 14 volts output.
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Makitaman60
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Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 6:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is no reset button,and the only load it takes to activate the protection light in the volt meter itself and I don't think it's pulling the kind of amperage that would be equal to any transmitting signal.Maybe a milliamp or two?
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Kid_vicious
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Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

not to hijack the thread but does that equation mean that: 4 watts=13.8 volts (0.289855 amps)?

or, 4=13.8 x .289855

that just doesnt seem right to me. am i misinterpreting the formula?
matt
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Bruce
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Post Number: 1920
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2004 - 8:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NO 4 WATTS IS NOT 4 WATTS POWER SUPPLY

You have to remember all the other transmitter stages which have to work as well as a class b stage is only going to be 50% efficent.

Better figure all that and times by 1.25 for a safety margin and your more like what you realy need. I run my grant LT on a 3 amp supply but safety sake it really needs a 5 amp.
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Kid_vicious
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2004 - 7:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok, that works as a general rule, but is there no conversion from amperage pulled from the power supply to wattage out of the transmitter? i would guess that anyone who has both a current reading power supply, an accurate wattmeter, and a variable power output on their radio could tell us the numbers. like, 4 watts out draws 3 amps, and 8 watts out draws 5 amps and so on.
just a radio geek's curiosity thats all!
merry christmas to all!
matt
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Usa2112
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Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 9:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok then what is a good clean supply to run a Magnum S9 on,one that will run cool and not be labored ?????
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Kid_vicious
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Post Number: 215
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 9:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

use a 20 amp power supply. it will probably provide 17 amps continuous. that supply will be loafing when running an S9.
matt
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Tech808
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Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Usa2112,

WELCOME TO THE COPPER FORUM!

Click on the link below and it should help you determine what size you need and always go a little larger.

Which Power Supply Do You Need?

Hope this help's,

Lon
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PS: I am located about 120 Miles south of you in Bloomington, IL.
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Pig040
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Registered: 7-2003


Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ASTRON, best supplies I have ever had, never a problem whatsoever!
Rich
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Usa2112
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Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the PS tips and the welcome!!!Been out of it too long and my old 60 Amp Sears battery charger converted into a power supply died years ago so I can't power things as I used to back in the day of Texas Star 1200's warming yer feet under the shack table ya know what I meen?
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Usa2112
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Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 2:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok just online-auctioned an Astron 25A,that should cover it and then some! God Bless that online-auction!!!
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Supertech1
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 9:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

here's a cheap and easy power supply: spin a 200 amp alternator(with built-in regulator) with a single phase electric compressor motor and use a small car battery for a buffer and WHA-LA!!..all the power you need for around 200 bucks(depending on witch junk yard you hit-up). I also built a gas powered version on an aluminum plate 5.5 hp briggs motor powers up 120 amp load at half throttle :-) and all portable...1500 watt inverter and my emergency generator is complete...again, less than 200 bucks. gotta love those alternators...if one burns out..just toss-in another one :-) :-). a little noisy-I know- but it beats a blank. two or three stacked astron 70amp ps can cost 2-much for some people that need 150 amps or more in their radio shack...like me!!:-)

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