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Sixtiesmania
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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 6:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello all,
I am looking at the KL 203B amp to run with my FT 817 for when I need a bit more power. My question is this, will it cover 40-10mtrs? I would like to use it on 20mtrs (yes I am licenced) and people who sell this model on Ebay (they are from England) claim it is perfect for the 817 range. I went to RM italy website and it only says "HF" (yes very descriptive I thought!) where other amps on their site would say "25-30 mhz). Also, does the Palamour 775 model cover 40-10 mtrs? I have one and have seen it advertised elsewhere as covering 3-30mhz. I have a KL 500 and this also quotes its range as "HF". So my question is "what is the RM Italy translation of the term "HF".
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Andrew
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Sixtiesmania
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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh, another question. It seems that most of the KL RM Italy amps have dissapeared from both here at Copper and other major internet based stores??? What gives? Do copper still sell the KL 203, as I would like to buy one.
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Andrew
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Tech808
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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sixtiesmania,

Read the post Titled:

HOW TO FIND COPPER ITEMS / USING THE SEARCH BOX

It is located in the OPEN Area of the forum and you will be able to find the KL Line of Amplifiers.

Hope this helps,

Lon
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Sixtiesmania
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Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 7:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks! found it!
But back to my tech questions of my first posting, can anyone help me out?
Cheers
Andrew
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Straitjacket
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good day ole bloke! When Rm Italy says HF, its 2-21 meters. Thats what the instruction manual says for my Kl400. I dont know if they can be expanded to include 27mhz or not, but I bet 808 would. I wonder if copper would or could expand it. Hope that helps mate. Cherry O!
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Straitjacket
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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, them kl400s can be converted sure enough. If you can even call it a conversion, just short tje jumper out and your good to go.
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Sixtiesmania
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Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well yes, I know they can be converted to 27 megs, no problem. What my original post asked any techs on fornum is if the KL 203 will cover the ham bands, ie 40 to 10 metres, and if it does cover this, do I still need to convert the 203 (specifically this amp) so it covers the full spectrum. I realise you have to do this for 27 megs, but if you don't do this, what are the frequency range they are shipped as to get around the CB linear loophole?? And then, if the answer is leave it alone to cover ham frequencies, how do you cover 10 meters WITHOUT conversion?? I think it's a pretty good tech question eh? So, can any tech please give me (and I hope others operators as it's a pretty interesting question), what the heck the true frequency coverage is with the KL 203 amp BEFORE it's converted, and what AFTER??
Cheers
Andrew CEF#511
OH, BTW I think there must be a real bad italian to english translation if your manual says 2-21 meters!!! kabooooooomm!!!!!!
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Tech808
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Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sixtiesmania,

If you order from copper then the conversion is already done for you.

If not then you need to convert them for 11 meter use.

KL-200 Specifications

Frequenza - Frequency - Fréquence - Frequenz - Frecuencia 25 - 30 MHz

Sorry, I have never tried them on anything except 10 & 11 meters so I can not give you any other information.

Maybe one of the other Forum Members can offer some help/advice.

Hope this helps,

Lon
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Sixtiesmania
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Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks 808,
But the amp in question is the KL 203 which covers "HF". I have seen these on auction on e-bay from England and they state it will cover 10-40 meters. Mind you, it is..E-Bay!! and people sometimes exagerate to sell their items there! So, with RM Italy quoting "HF" as frequency range, does this mean 10-40 meters? And again, the 203 requires the jumper conversion to be done for 10 & 11 meters, so without conversion, what are they intended to cover?
Cheers
Andrew
PS-A appreciate all help but my specific original question has not been addressed technically.
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Tech808
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Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sixtiesmania,

Maybe the link to RM ITALY Below can help you find the information you seek.

RM Italy

Hope this helps,

Lon
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Sixtiesmania
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 6:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks 808,
Unfortunately their website is not the most technically detailed site!! Very very basic, complete with bad english translations from Italian. Hopefully someone out there has used the "HF" model KL amps (others say specifically 25-30 Mhz on frequency specs) on the ham bands. Mind you, if you ask this question on a ham forum site, you get bombarded with the words ...chicken band splatterbox..etc etc, ha ha.. Hope someone out there can help out.
Cheers
Andrew
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Scooterman
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Posted on Saturday, June 23, 2012 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lon Tech808 Wrote:
"If you order from copper then the conversion is already done for you."End quote.

Scooterman Asks:
Just one question, which position should the jumper be in? Connecting pins 1 & 2, or 2 & 3, or 3 & 4?? You can send me a PM if you need to in order to be able to answer the question.
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Tech833
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Posted on Saturday, June 23, 2012 - 4:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scooterman,

Please call Copper and ask for a tech.

FYI, We lost 808 last year. He went SK with dignity and a lot of friends.
Your radio 'Mythbuster' since 1998
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Milkman21218
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Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 6:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scooter, I have a few KL-203 amps. And some work with pins 1 & 2 jumped. And 2 work with pins 2 & 3 jumped. KL changed the pins about a year later. Some of the newer 203's had solder pads. And the newest you don't change anything. So I really don't think that anyone can answer which pins to use. Just hook it up and give it a quick key to see if you have power out or not. If not reverse the pins and try again. Just make sure your Dead Key is less than 2 watts (1 1/2 watts is best)into any KL amp. And the amp will serve you well for many years with very good clean audio. If not you need to replace it very soon. Because it will die a early death. I'm still running KL-203's that are over 10 years old.
Izzy
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