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Airplane1
Intermediate Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 332
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 9:08 am: | 
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Hi Techs, I want to find out if my president washington base has a uPD858 or MB8719 in it.I think is called a PC board or something like that. How do you find this info?
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Mrbigshot
Junior Member
Username: Mrbigshot
Post Number: 45
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 2:53 pm: |
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it will be printed on it, normally on the southern edge top side. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 5330
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 3:02 pm: |
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Airplane1,
Inside your radio look for the Largest Black Chip, it should look like the picture below except Black and will be soldered to the MAIN BOARD.
The one above is the MB8719 but it will have UPD858 or MB8719 marked on it.
Hope this helps,
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
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2600
Advanced Member
Username: 2600
Post Number: 518
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 5:09 pm: |
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Uh, does it have a 4-pin mike socket, and a little plastic-covered relay inside? If so, you will find the 'fat' 28-pin uPD858 PLL chip on the corner of the circuit board adjacent to the channel selector. This is the 'original' President Washington. Pretty sure it was made between 1977 and 1979.
If it has a 5-pin mike socket, there will be no relay in the radio, and you will find a smaller, 18-pin MB8719 pll chip near the channel selector. The earliest of this one said "President" on the front. Later production radios say "Uniden" Washington on the front panel.
73
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Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 426
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 5:32 pm: |
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The way to tell is if you look at the front of the radio even without opening it up you can tell which is which. The newer one will have two lights one on either side of the channel window and on the control panel three push buttons, this is the one with the MB8719 PLL. Where as the older one with the UPD-858 PLL only has one light and two push buttons and the older one is the better of the two. |
Airplane1
Intermediate Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 336
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 7:05 pm: |
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Which one is better?
and thanks.
AP |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 5332
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 7:13 pm: |
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Airplane1,
The 858 PLL gives you more modification options.
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9OSN |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 427
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 7:41 pm: |
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BTW there were 3 models of the Washington, the original one of which prodution was started in late 1976 thru about the middle of 1979, then in 1979 the second model came out and that also said President below the speaker but has the MB 8719 PLL, I'm not quite sure when the President name came off and the Uniden name went on, but the one with President on it and the MB8719 PLL was a very short production and both models with the MB8719 PLL had a 5 pin microphone plug. Most of the MB8719 President Washingtons are in the hands of Uniden collectors like myself and I'm still searching for one to add to my collection. At present I have just the first model. |
Keithinatlanta
Advanced Member
Username: Keithinatlanta
Post Number: 540
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 8:14 pm: |
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Got any pictures we can see that show the differences?
keith in atlanta |
Kid_vicious
Intermediate Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 311
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 12:26 am: |
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yankee has the way to tell, if there are two buttons on the right its the 858. if theres three buttons, its the 8719.
matt
and yes, the 858 is the better of the two IMO. |
Airplane1
Intermediate Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 342
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 8:55 am: |
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Kid_Vicious, Why do you think it`s better to have the 858?
I believe mine is the President washington with the MB8719. It has president below the speaker and 5 pin mic plug + the three push buttons to the right.I guess what I want to find is a older model president washington from first production to have a 858 correct? Is there someone who has pics to post here to help me? I think i`m getting a bit confused! Sorry.
So, the only difference is the 858 has more mod avalible but performance of the two in stock form would be the same on rec. and trans.?
thanks,
AP |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 428
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 2:21 pm: |
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Airplane: The first model with the uPD-858 PLL can do an honest 200 channels, more audio on transmit and I feel it has a little more on the receive end. Yes, the one you have was the rare one that was in short production and the one I'm looking for to put in my collection.
The one you have is one in the same radio as the Cobra 142 GTL as well as the Uniden Washington, the first model is the same radio as the Cobra 138-139 XLR, Robyn 510-520D, Realistic TRC-449, TRC-457-458, Uniden Madison with the flip numbers on the clock, as well as the first model of the Uniden Grant and last but not least the Pierce Simpson Simba in the 40 channel model and Courier Centurion in the 40 channel model, as you can see you have a wide selection of the first model to look for. And in answer to your question, the one to have is the first model, and in stock form is more radio than the newer one. In my collection I have the Cobra 138 XLR, First model of the Washington, Realistic TRC-449 and 457 and the parts radio is a TRC-449. |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 429
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 4:30 pm: |
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Forgot to mention that I have 2 of the Realistic TRC-449 one in like new condition and the other a parts radio. |
Kid_vicious
Intermediate Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 320
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 10:01 pm: |
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yankee, i bet you and i have had bidding wars in the past. we seem to faovr the same chassis.
i have two 139xlr's one TOTALLY STOCK! and one basket case with every mod in the world done. its the parts radio. ive also got a president madison, an old style Zac.T and a stock 2000gtl.
hope i didnt win any of them out from under you!
matt |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 434
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 3:00 pm: |
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Matt: The only rigs I ever bid on were the Cobra 138XLR with the digiscan,2 Realistic TRC-449s and an Astatic TUG-8 with the 10-DA head and won all my bids. The TRC-449 that I paid the most for turned out to be the parts radio. |
Airplane1
Intermediate Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 350
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 4:25 pm: |
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a coworker told me the other day he has a madion still in box he never used. he asked me if I want it when he heard im into CB. I said yes and he said he wants 50-75 bucks for it and I said YES!
Good deal dont you think?
AP |
Tech291
Moderator
Username: Tech291
Post Number: 133
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 5:27 pm: |
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Roger 
tech291
CEF#291
kc8zpj |
Patzerozero
Advanced Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 620
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 5:34 pm: |
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(thief)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Airplane1
Intermediate Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 355
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 6:03 pm: |
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I`m sorry, Should I offer more $ for it? What would you all do? buy it for that price or turn him down? LOL!
AP |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 5360
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 6:10 pm: |
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Airplane1,
Used equipment is ONLY worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
If you want it get it.
Personally to me it would not be worth 2 cents as there are far too many  radios out there with far more features and power now.
Just my personal thoughts,
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9OSN
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Patzerozero
Advanced Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 622
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 6:14 pm: |
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'PRESIDENT MADISON 40 CHANNEL + AM/SSB BASE WITH 2 SPEAKERS EXCL CONDITION STOCK MIC & ORIGINAL BOX $350.00'
that's a direct copy from a cb stores' site...
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Airplane1
Intermediate Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 356
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 6:26 pm: |
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Well, he says it`s bran new, he only took it out to look at it once and packed it back, he said it has the digital display clock and speakers too.
I guess I will know for sure when he brings it in to work this week.
Yea Lol, there are lots of new radios out there and hopefully soon I can buy a 696f base from coppers, but for now I want to get some radios from my past that I could not afford when I was a kid just starting into cbs in the late 70s.
I will get a 696f base sometime this summer if they are still produced.
AP |
Kid_vicious
Intermediate Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 324
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 7:18 pm: |
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wow! that was ALMOST a flat out sales pitch!
to say that a brand new in the box madison base, be it the president or the uniden isnt worth 2 cents to you just seems ignorant. wouldnt you buy it for the $75.00 and then sell it on *bay for $300.00? or add it to the collection as one of the premier pieces? this is the equivilent of a little old lady with a GTO in the garage that was only used to get to the store and back.
and one of the tech's on the site is suggesting that this is not the deal of a lifetime. knowing full well that the Madison is a better built and designed chassis than ANY CB base station on the market today. all i can say is, "give the guy the $75.00 and consider yourself one of the luckiest CB'ers around! WOW!
matt |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 5362
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 7:31 pm: |
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Kid_vicious,
I have been a member of ebay since Nov of 98, with a 100% Positive Feedback
The last NEW Never Used Washington I had went for 150.00.
And sorry but NO I would not buy it for 75.00 and pay for ads to try and sell it.
Guess I have learned from 6 1/2 years of experience of using Internet auction sites.
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9OSN |
Kid_vicious
Intermediate Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 326
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 8:07 pm: |
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lon, just looked at ebay's current listings for the madison. 'nuff said. i can see your point.
i guess it surprised me that you arent a collector like so many of us. to each his own i guess. happy easter!
matt |
Airplane1
Intermediate Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 358
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 8:56 am: |
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Well the nice thing is I can look at it and try it befor I buy, not like ebay where you take a chance. Even if they go for 150.00 on ebay for 75.00 or maybe he will only want 50.00 it is worth it to me to have a radio from the past. I will use it and not just keep it in the box stored away.
I would not buy it if it was going for 150.00, I just dont have alot of funds so I need to make every one count.
AP |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 437
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 11:54 am: |
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The Madison with the digital clock has the MB8719 PLL and not the great uPD-858 Chassis with all the audio, the Madison with the flip number clock has the uPD-858 chassis, and there are a lot of differences between the two radios. The one with the digital clock is the same radio as the Cobra 142-GTL. No, not even at $75.00. Now if it was the first model of the Madison yes, it's worth a bunch of money and I would like to have the first model Madison in my collection, along side the Realistic TRC-457 and first model Washington. Just my opinion of the uPD-858 chassis. Collecting the older classics takes a bunch of bucks, and I have several of the 858 chassis sideband rigs. |
Patzerozero
Advanced Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 633
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 4:44 pm: |
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for $50...what was that i said about experimenting...rare or not, you don't pay $150-350(as in the ad i saw)to experiment. & when you find ANY pseudo/semi-classics, with modification/experimentation/learning/practice possibilities, at LOW cost, you snatch 'em up. you may be able to recoup your investment & make a couple bucks by reselling it. |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 440
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 7:30 pm: |
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Patzerozero: The Uniden Madison as I remember didn't sell that well, because at the time it came out all the sideband operators knew that the new Madison was no more than a dressed up Cobra 142 GTL with a clock and outboard speaker. But the price tag on the Uniden Madison was a lot higher than the Cobra 142 GTL.
On the other hand The President Madison for some reason was a very good seller, more so than the Cobra 139XLR even though they were the same radio. At that time back in the late 70s when both radios came into the dealership I was helping out behind the counter and the Madison was out selling the 139XLR 3to1. I guess the clock and external speaker were catching the public's eye. |
Racer_x
Intermediate Member
Username: Racer_x
Post Number: 220
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 7:48 pm: |
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It's a collector radio if it is NIB and is worth considerably more than $75. Unmolested, out of production radios go for a premium on eBay and always have.
As for it's worth as a radio, it doesn't have all of the bells and whistles that some new radios have, but I seriously doubt you can find a radio made better today. It's nearly the same radio as a Cobra 2000, a Uniden 7.8MHz SSB chassis, and that's a darn good radio.
I'd buy it and put it on display in my radio room and maybe occasionally use it - carefully. I wouldn't back a single screw out of it to do anything to it either. The more it's worked on, the less it's worth as a collector's item. That's a great deal. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 5374
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 7:56 pm: |
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Racer_x,
Well start saving your Money as there is a NIB Washington Base sitting on a shelf at Copper and it will go on the Copper Auction Site when the Forummaster finishes with the new Auction program.
GOOD LUCK on your Bidding when it is posted.
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9OSN |
Kilowatt
Intermediate Member
Username: Kilowatt
Post Number: 156
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 8:13 pm: |
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Man,
I'll sure bid on the Washington when it goes on auction!
Ya'll wouldn't happen to have any "Black Cat" stuff from the '70s in a deep, dark corner of the warehouse, would you? |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 442
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 8:36 pm: |
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Lon, which model Washington, President first, second or Uniden? If it's the first model I'd be interested. |
Patzerozero
Advanced Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 637
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 8:54 pm: |
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understood, yankee, & i do agree with racer, also, as i've said i'd think about it before cutting up some things, but if it's not neccessarily rare/collectible, but it is modifiable, use it as a learning tool.
you're not cutting up the last '53 corvette to put a V8 & big rubber under it, it's a radio worth a few hours pay. or put it on the shelf & use it when the mood hits. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 5375
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 10:33 pm: |
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Yankee,
You will have to wait until the Forummaster gets the Auction Site up and running and he will list the information.
Or I will check on our next Copper Visit sometime in April.
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9OSN |
Airplane1
Intermediate Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 363
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 7:23 am: |
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I bet that radio will go for alot with all the collectors on the forum!
Cant wait to see that, I might even try/LOL!
better start saving now!
AP |
Airplane1
Intermediate Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 364
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 7:27 am: |
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Maybe i`ll sell both my President washington and when I get the Madison sell it too and use the money to bid on the NIB Washington!
I like the washington better than the madison in looks and a NIB washington would be great!
AP |
Kid_vicious
Intermediate Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 338
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 11:42 pm: |
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airplane1, they uniden madison is NOT the same as the washington, or the 142gtl. the washington and the 142 are single conversion receivers, while the Madison and the 2000gtl are dual conversion. the benefits of dual conversion are better selectivity, less static noise, and a more sensitive receiver. i have owned a 142, a uniden washington, and a 2000gtl. i can tell you that there is a noticable difference between the single and dual conversion receivers. the uniden madison is the same radio as the 2000gtl without the freq. counter. (no, you cant convert the clock to work as a counter.)
the president washington (if its the old one), is a dual conversion receiver and therefore better than its uniden "equivilent".
keep your president washington and grab that madison before it disappears.
you'll have two radios that are better than a NIB uniden washington.
i think you'll be surprised at how low a price that washington will go for.
matt |
Airplane1
Intermediate Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 366
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 8:26 am: |
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Kid vicious,
Would that Pres. Washington with dual conversion rec. be the one with only two buttons on the lower right? How do I tell if it is dual?
AP |
Racer_x
Intermediate Member
Username: Racer_x
Post Number: 226
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 4:16 pm: |
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Generally speaking, dual conversion receivers are LESS sensitive than single conversion receivers. It really depends on the design.
Selectivity is generally better with more conversion stages, but again, it depends on the design. If there is good filtering between stages the selectivity goes up.
BTW - Nearly all CBs are dual conversion on AM. SSB CBs are single conversion on SSB. I imagine there are some exceptions, but I don't know of any modern CBs that are dual conversion for SSB. |
2600
Advanced Member
Username: 2600
Post Number: 529
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 4:59 pm: |
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If it came with a 4-pin mike socket, and has a little plastic plug-in relay on the main circuit board, that's the older one with dual-conversion AM receive.
If it has a 5-pin mike socket, there will be no relay inside. That is the later design with single-conversion for BOTH AM and SSB receive.
Even the old one uses single-conversion for SSB side. Only AM mode used the second conversion step in the receiver. BOTH versions have a single-conversion receiver for SSB mode.
Never could quite keep track of how many buttons either one came with.
73
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Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 449
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 6:31 pm: |
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Airplane: Yes, the one I sent you the picture of is the first model with dual conversion receive on AM, the newer model is single conversion on both AM and SSB.
73, Carl |
Ibacbfreq
New member
Username: Ibacbfreq
Post Number: 5
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 3:52 pm: |
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I like the Madison with the 858 better than the 2000 and if you put a digi-scan in place of the clock you can get 200[rds1] or 400[ds400] channels in order with no gaps. I would not cut,drill,fold,spindle or mutalate[sp?] a nib Madison. I would buy the 8719 Madison sell it on an auction svs and buy a "used 858" and a ds400
JMO, I-b-a-cb-freq |
Tech291
Moderator
Username: Tech291
Post Number: 136
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 5:12 pm: |
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what could you legally do with 200 to 400 channels?
(nothing!)
tech291
CEF#291
kc8zpj |
Ibacbfreq
New member
Username: Ibacbfreq
Post Number: 6
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 11:59 pm: |
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The digi-scan only works on RX if installed corectly so I guess that is somthing. You could get A pen and paper and document the wanton law breakers bad deeds. |
Airplane1
Intermediate Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 372
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 8:07 am: |
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Well I got some classic radios and just need a good tube set for my very small collection.
Dont know what I want yet.
AP |
Airplane1
Intermediate Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 374
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 8:05 am: |
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Well, just made the deal for the New in box Madison, he is into N scale trains and I was too at one time. He said if I have any PRR trains he would be interrested in trading. It just so happens that it what I collected(PRR) so I showed him some engines and there is one he likes(Kato 2-8-2 steamer)and we are trading even up. That engine cost me 75.00 when I bought it and it`s worth about 100.00 now(NIB). This works for me so I will soon have the Madison/yeeeeeeHaaaa!
AP |
Road_warrior
Intermediate Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 450
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 1:16 pm: |
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Let me know how you make out with your
Madison. The Washington and Madison
are both nice radios.
JIM/ PA/ CEF 375 |
Kid_vicious
Intermediate Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 361
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 11:02 pm: |
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wouldnt it be amazing if he found an analog clock on that madison!
matt |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 468
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 1:57 am: |
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Tell me no KV, the Madison with the analog clock is the one I'm hunting for my vintage collection. Look real nice next to my other uPD 858 goodies. Then onward to the Cobra 139 XLR, Robyn 520D and mobile counterpart, Courier Centurion 40, Pierce Simpson Simba 40, Realistic TRC-458 and the President uPD 858 Grant, these radios will complete my vintage sideband collection. I have a long way to go, but have a good start on it. So far seems the Grant, Madison, Robyns, Courier, Pierce Simpson are going to be the tuffest to find in like new condition. They are out there, just have to keep hunting. Every now and then you might see one or two in estate auctions, speaking of radio estates I'm going to leave a big one. |
Yankee
Intermediate Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 470
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 3:39 pm: |
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I might yet even pick up the like new Cobra 2000 GTL I know about at $275.00, just because the price is right and the new hasn't yet worn off the radio. |
Kid_vicious
Intermediate Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 370
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 11:36 pm: |
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yankee, we definitely have the same taste in radios!
i too am collecting the 70's era uniden chassis.
as of now i have:
2 Cobra 139xlr's. one basket case with a thumbwheel mod and one TOTALLY stock.
1 president Madison. this one has the standard audio mods done and the NB switch now controls the upper channels. (.455 to .805)
1 president Zachary T (858). this radio needs some work. probably just audio chip.
1 Cobra 148gtl Totally stock.
1 Cobra 2000gtl sort of stock, has a few "better" parts in it.
and last, i will be receiving a 138xlr in the mail this week.
i think im done for now, ive got enough projects to keep me busy for a year!
i am really on the lookout for a Robyn SB540D though.
matt |
Airplane1
Intermediate Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 379
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:30 am: |
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kid_vicious the Madison has the digital clock.
I think it is to nice to use, I think i`ll just keep it in the box for now.
AP |
Kid_vicious
Intermediate Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 382
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 12:29 am: |
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airplane1, very cool!
just know that your madison is the same radio as the 2000gtl minus the freq. cntr.
my 2000gtl is the quietest RX ive ever owned.
matt |
Airplane1
Intermediate Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 380
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 7:51 am: |
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Cool, that would be great to have a freq. counter.
so the 2000gtl is the same electronics inside just a added freq. counter,I hav`nt tried it yet so maybe this weekend I will see how quiet and good rec. is on it.
I hope it`s as quiet as my uniden grant xl, that radio is so quiet if I need to here a faint station and i`m on my 696FD1 I will switch to the
grant and be able to hear them.
I like my 696FD1 mainly because of the counter and I modded it very easy myself. I dont want to do anything to my grant, just keeping it stock.
I might buy a president washington from a guy in my area that is new looking but has a modulation and clarifier mod done on it, I heard him talk on it and it sounds great. He only wants 50.00 for it.
AP |
