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Climber
| | Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 11:15 pm: | 
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Howdy,
Can the TR-696-F have its channels expanded? If so how?
Does this radio have a single amp or dual amp? Which pot or control is used to turn down the wattage output?
Thanks again for helping me out!
Climber |
Weakeststation
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 7:48 am: |
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On the back of the channel selector,you will see a yellow and grey wires,(also called p5 and p6)
cut the wire's (yellow and grey) put a switch inline with each.. boom your done....
vr6 ssb carrier
vr13 ssb alc
vr14 am power
vr16 am modulation
Unlocking the clarifier,
unhook face from chassic, but do not disconect the wires, lift the face a little so you can see under it, By vr7 is a resistor, r113 remove it.
to the left of the vr7 about a inch is, d68 remove it, and right next to that is d38 remove that.... ok now place a wire across d38 mounting holes....
Place a wire from j14 (8volt spot) and then hook it to J9 position F1 wich is by the diods... there ya go.... |
Climber
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 9:18 pm: |
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WeakestStation,
You the Man!
Thanks, for helping me out.
Climber |
Weakeststation
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 12:45 am: |
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ahh not me, im just trying to help you out.. take care and have fun... |
Rightwing
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 2:13 am: |
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what channels specifically do you get with the mod listed? just curious. |
Weakeststation
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 11:11 am: |
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26.695-27.965 with a hand full of repeats, copper has the BEST PRICES on these radios... A excellent buy in my book, hey it's got a 6diget freq counter tooo... |
Weakeststation
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 1:19 pm: |
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This is the same mod for the BASE version as well as the MOBILE version...... Same mod for both |
Climber
| | Posted on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 11:24 pm: |
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Thanks,
I bought the radio from Copper for $129.99 and have it in hand now. Yea, a fine looking/talking unit. Not as solid a feel as the 3900GHP, but quality build and good features without a roger beep. YES!
So adding a single switch will allow to to tune in 26.695--- thru ---27.965 on the 1-40 channel selector? How can a single switch cover that band width, or did I mis-understand something?
Climber |
Twa77
| | Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 10:28 am: |
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if people have extra channels and power in mind. why do they go and buy a cb and then modify it. why not just buy a 10 meter to start with. this way you get a dual tracking clarifier and dual finals right from the factory. jmo |
Climber
| | Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 5:33 pm: |
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I have three ham radio's, all three duplex (split), (2)1.8 mhz and up, ect,,.
This forum is a good source of info, I ask. |
Weakeststation
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 10:32 am: |
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I agree Twa77, thats my thing to....
Hey climber, i used my anl switch along with my nb switch.. works great.. I had to solder a bridge across the 3 pins on the board so the anl and nb would alway be on for me....
Im still learning the channel placements, i sure do like the 10 meter rigs better, but this is a good radio no doube.. I seen this radio for sale and it took me about a year before i bought, the reason for this is that i love 10meter rigs, and i wasn't sure if i wanted to buy a CB again.. Worth the money in my book.. |
Climber
| | Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 10:55 pm: |
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Thanks for the information and suggestions Twa77 & Weakeststation.
I know now that the 696f its a single amp, thats what i was hoping for, have no need for dual finals.
Still, I am unclear on my previous question above?
"Will adding a single switch, allow me to tune in 26.695 - thru - 27.965 on the 1-40 channel selector? How can a single switch cover that band width"?
Please do not mis-understand. I am very grateful for your help past and present, I am slow on somethings, (health challenges, cancer, lots of meds). This tikering gives me something to do, and occupies my thoughts. Buy something shiney and I am distracted like a child for a long time. 
What a hobbie, Good stuff! |
2600
| | Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:36 am: |
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The order in which the new, added channels appear on the channel selector is pretty jumbled around. A true "band-switched" mod to make this radio act like a "10-meter" radio, with all the channels in order from 1 to 40 on the selector? The "toggle-switch" mod won't provide this kind of convenience. Since most folks use only a few of the "extra" channels, they usually learn which switch setting/channel number "their" channel is found on, and just select it from memory.
A mod to make it act like a "Galaxy/Connex/Superstar" 10-meter radio will require pulling all the channel selector wires from the PLL chip, and inserting the "mod" there. I don't know if Defpom has one of these worked out, but radio prices continue to plummet. Adding this level of convenience to a 696 will make it cost a lot more dollars per channel than a radio that has them already.
Mass-produced factory-installed "channels" will always be cheaper than one-at-a-time custom-installed channels. Kinda like car interiors.
73 |
Climber
| | Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 8:39 pm: |
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My mistake, my Bad, Duh!
I was thinking the 696f was covering 25.615 to 26.955 in a single band 40 selector. Dah!
I am worthless & weak.
Sorry,
I "am" sorry. |
Weakeststation
| | Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 9:09 pm: |
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The freq counter comes in handy, lol. Even with the freq counter i still get to were i gotta flip this one in and this one out to find what im looking for,with out the freq counter i'd be lost, hey it well worth the money, the first cb i bought in with in the last 10years, it's worth it... Still like my ham gear, but it a good cb,and no one can beat coppers price on it.. |
Cuddlebear
Junior Member
Username: Cuddlebear
Post Number: 76
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 11:17 pm: |
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A quick question for you Weakeststation
Why would you solder a bridge on the board for the anl and the nb on the 696F, when it seems a lot easier to me to just unsolder the 2 wires on each switch and splice them together and then shrink tube them? Not being picky here, Just curiosity is all. Are there advantages to this technique etc? Thanks for your time. |
Weakeststation
Junior Member
Username: Weakeststation
Post Number: 238
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Friday, March 05, 2004 - 8:22 pm: |
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This way the ANL/NB is always turned on, because i used the switches for the channels.. And i like the NB/ANL feture to be on at all times, it cuts down on the noise and such... |
Weakeststation
Member
Username: Weakeststation
Post Number: 239
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Friday, March 05, 2004 - 8:26 pm: |
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I forgot to add that the jumper block i took off, i like using them for other modifications.. I like anl/nb, so the solder job across the pins is just for me, but when the radio is done up for others, i don't even use the switches on the radio, i install mini toggles.. |
Cuddlebear
Member
Username: Cuddlebear
Post Number: 77
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 10:26 pm: |
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ok, I have another question,
Just curious, But doing a clarifier mod on this 696F, The +8 Volt Tie in, goes to pin F1 on the J9. Am I right? Or am I wrong here? Just need to know before I Modifry it. I think I'm right. But not 100%. |
Cuddlebear
Member
Username: Cuddlebear
Post Number: 79
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 5:17 pm: |
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OK, DUH!
Sorry about my previous post on the clarifier thingy.  You just answered that a lil bit further up in the postings. (YES, I do feel braindead at times) lol. Ok, well, 73's to you and your's
Cuddlebear in the patch by the hickory stump
We gone. |
Weakeststation
Intermediate Member
Username: Weakeststation
Post Number: 240
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 5:14 am: |
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LOL.... ok!! I do it all the time myself...
Just some results that i have gotten,
sliding up from 50 27.3250 (50)..... It will slide up to 69 and down to 38... (27.3238-27.3269) of course your results could differ... I have changed out the resistor on the board that they discuss so i could get more slide.. |
Cuddlebear
Member
Username: Cuddlebear
Post Number: 85
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 1:00 am: |
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Ok,
Just one more question here HEY, I promises
Ok, my question is one of modulation. I see that according to the internal meter on the radio. And external as well, That the modulation is at 80%. Now, I understand that this is probably the norm for a radio to come out of the factory at. However, The book says that when you do an alignment on a radio, you should inject a "1Khz tone into the radio at 30mv" Now, my question is this. No matter where I put the volume control on my 1Khz player, it really doesn't change the modulation meter any. Still 80%. The only way it changes is if I turn the volume so far down that you can't hardly hear anything anymore. Then it drops to like 10-15%. And by this theory, Even when you say a healthy "Auuudio" or whistle into the mic you get a 80%. After all, nobody out there regulates their voice to 30mv when they talk. So, by this logic, Does it really matter where the silly volume is located? So long as it's not screaming till your ears bleed, you should be ok right? I would say, use it at the same level you would normally talk at. Does this sound right to you guy's? Or am I incorrect? I would really love to know what folks think. Thank you in advance for all your help
Cuddlebear. |
Kc0gxz
Advanced Member
Username: Kc0gxz
Post Number: 640
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 3:20 am: |
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WOW!!
For another 10 to 15 bucks, a guy can buy a 10 meter radio from Coppers and one wire jump will give ya more frequencies than he/she would know what to do with. Not to mention the massive audio capabitities.
I've always been confused as to why people buy a CB radio and then try to get it to do what a 10 meter radio can do. Oh well. I guess we all need the experience.
PS: Any of you hotrodders out here have the mods for converting a vintage '61 Volkswagon Bug into a dumptruck? I need to carry more weight but I don't wanna go with dual wheels. Loud exhaust and more gears would be nice also but I wanna keep the same 36HP engine.
Jeff, kc0gxz. |
Weakeststation
Intermediate Member
Username: Weakeststation
Post Number: 243
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 6:46 am: |
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You betcha Kcogxz, a few bucks more for something twice as good... OOOH yaaaa, I've done it...
Hey Cuddlebear VR16 Am modulation, i think i turned it clockwise, could of been the other way, but since you have a meter, you will see which way real quick, turn it all the way in the direction that works.. And make sure the MIC gain on the radio, is turned all the way to the right.. You should notice a major improvement...
Wait til you get the idea to do the clarifier mod, and then you'll probaly want the 10khz mod done as well... both mods are prety easy.. You can put swing kits in these radios easily as well |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 1080
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 10:43 am: |
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hummmmmm i was told my camery looked like a garbage truck........ nice change over .... |
Cuddlebear
Member
Username: Cuddlebear
Post Number: 87
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 11:45 am: |
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WeakestStation & Kc0gxz,
Hi there. I already did the channel mods and the clarifier unlock and also an alignment on the radio This DX 2547 is by far the best CB base I've ever used since the Cobra 2000GTL. I do whole heartedly agree with you guy's that going 10 meter right off the bat is the way to go. However, for me it is a little bit more than that. In a 10 meter rig, it's all been done for you really, Where as with a CB it is the thrill of the hunt I quess. The ability to look yourself in the mirror and smile knowing your the one that has made this radio what it is. It was your knowledge and effort, and "your" hands that achieved this. However, let me state for the record that I don't think there is anything wrong with getting a radio for yourself that is already set up right out of the box. It's great. But I just enjoy CB. It's a great education to get into it. To learn what every piece is responsible for etc. Some people in this world have to jab a vein with drugs etc for a thrill. All I have to do is open a radio lid and I'm high on life Sorry if I seem to be kinda weird on it, but as you can tell, I love radios. I don't care what they are. I love em all. Every radio is like a fine woman. You get out of the relationship what you put into it Anyway, by the way weakeststation, I seriously thought about the 10Khz slide. But figured against the mod. My thoughts are simple on this. If your going to be on a channel talking to someone on SSB. the theory behind the clarifier is to simply tune into them. If you want to slide to another channel, that's what the channel selector is for really. So, for me, the 1.2Khz I've moded it for is ok. Of course you could "over volt" the clarifier circuit by jumping it to 9volts by using a regulated source, or as I once experimented with, A 9v battery on the clarifier just to see if it could be done temporarily. Although i would NEVER recommend you jump a 9v battery to your system. But still, a VERY fascinating subject. That's why I love this forum. All the ideas of people more skilled than I. All the ideas being exchanged. Ahh, there are some things money cannot buy. And having pride in a job well done by your own hand is something no one can EVER take from you. It has no price tag..
Cuddlebear. |
Kc0gxz
Advanced Member
Username: Kc0gxz
Post Number: 641
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 1:13 am: |
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Cuddlebear
Point well taken. My previous post was only in jest.
Keep doing your thing.
Jeff, kc0gxz. |
Kc0gxz
Advanced Member
Username: Kc0gxz
Post Number: 646
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 4:53 am: |
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Hey Bruce
Is your garbage truck-looking Camery street legal?
Jeff. |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 1081
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 8:38 am: |
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its 24 in cube now i have the 2004 corolla |
Cuddlebear
Member
Username: Cuddlebear
Post Number: 88
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 5:07 pm: |
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KCo,
Hey, not a problem at all I just wanted to let folks know out there how I felt about radiosI have a question on something though. Why are truckers nowadays so nasty to people when they hear a little Roger Beep? They call it a "Queer beep" and other nasty things. I hear a lot of worse things on their radios. Way to much echo to where you can't understand them, not to mention all the noise toys out there like Tarzan yells etc. Is it just me? or is the radio changing out there? Is all the radio is nowadays is most people being nasty to each other anymore? I remember a time when CB'ers talked to each other decently on the radio. Now, all I see is the foul mouthed Trucker in my area that has nothing nice to say No disrespect to all Truckers, as I know they are not all that way. But it seems to me like that's all I hear anymore. Radio used to be so cool. Now I seem to have to use the upper side bands to talk to anybody decent. Can someone please explain this to me as I am VERY confused by all this. Seems like de-regulating CB might have been the cause? |
Kc0gxz
Advanced Member
Username: Kc0gxz
Post Number: 654
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 12:34 am: |
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Cuddlebear
The Roger Beep was originally designed by NASA in the late 60s to early 70s. Back then, radio communications with astronauts was pretty much antenna to antenna and sideband use was not uncommon.
Communications were not the best at all hours and at times it was difficult to tell when each other had finished a transmission. That's when they developed the Roger Beep. It was a single tone Beep that meant "Roger" or "end of transmission".
At least then they knew when each other had unkeyed whether they heard the complete transmission or not and were no longer stepping on each others toes so to speak. With the launching and use of Satelite communications, the Roger Beep was no longer needed since communications were no longer a problem.
Some years later, the Roger Beep was put into some sideband radios. Since there is no carrier on SSB other than when you are speaking, the R-B came in very handy when communicating with distant stations.
There are times when a distant station can hear your transmitted SSB audio but they see no carrier swing. And if you hesitate too long between your sentences, the receiving station may think you may have unkeyed. Without realizing it, they may key up and start talking while you are still on the key. This happens quite often when working DX with foreign countries.
Talking with a long distant station that uses a R-B on sideband can be a blessing. But listening to a local station across town using it on A-M can be downright nausiating. It is also one of the ways you can tell the difference between a run-of-the-mill goodbuddy CBer who hasn't a clue what their Roger Beep is for, and a real CB radio operator. Most A-M Roger Beep users are usually the same kids who like to put Noise Toys in their radios also. WOW. Real professionalism there!
I hope this answers your question of the (when-where-how) Roger Beep.
Jeff, kc0gxz. |
Highlander
Intermediate Member
Username: Highlander
Post Number: 464
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 8:31 am: |
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Cuddlebear, I don't think it is limited to CB--it is a reflection of how the greater society is becoming. Less courtesy, less compassion, less decency, more of the "me-first, to heck with everybody else" attitude. |
Pig040
Intermediate Member
Username: Pig040
Post Number: 343
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 9:44 am: |
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A lot of radio people just dont like roger beeps. On most of the freqs I talk on you will be told immediately to cut that thing off. They do get to be irritating, so do the eagle squeals when they get in there and make them 2 seconds long. Or the ones they sell that have 5 tones to them. Another thing that is irritating is someone whos roger beep is 9db, and there voice transmission is 3db! |
Cuddlebear
Member
Username: Cuddlebear
Post Number: 89
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 6:39 pm: |
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Ahhh, well, Thank You for the explanation of how the Roger beep got started there Kco. I am 36yrs old. So, I got started in the radio thing back in the 70's Never really knew where that got started. I always thought it was started by people in radio CB, Ham, etc. And I have to agree with you Highlander. It is a shame that there are so many people out there with that attitude. But sadly, it has gotten to that. And to address your comment as well Pig040, I do agree with you on the fact that they do get on your nerves after awhile. However, In argument for the Roger Beep. Let me state for the record that If my neighbor was to use one. I would far more rather listen to that thing than all the profanity, Excessive Echo, Tarzan yells etc, that is on my radio most of the time. I truly find it less offensive. But I do understand your point Pig040.
I actually had a guy in my local CB repair shop, tell me yesterday, that if I wanted to enjoy the radio like it should be, that I needed to go to 2 meter or ham because it was regulated by the FCC, and that there was a "Better class" of people on it. Wether that was true or not, I have no clue. So, Please don't take offense to this, as I mean NO slam to any Cb'er. I am one. Just telling folks what another guy said. |
Weakeststation
Intermediate Member
Username: Weakeststation
Post Number: 253
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 8:32 am: |
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Just some added information..
Talk back conversion, snip D75, wammo talk back, add a switch to make it switchable...
Not loud enough,
Solder a jumper from JP25, to cathode of D79.. now it's loud ey?? (super loud, to loud for me)
Still not loud enough,
Replace R221 with a 56k ohm resistor.. |
Weakeststation
Intermediate Member
Username: Weakeststation
Post Number: 254
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 8:36 am: |
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I should of also added..
ALL OF THESE MODS CAN BE DONE TO THE 396f AS WELL(same exact mods).. As of this moment the 396f is on coppers home page.. |
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