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Therealporkchop
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Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 9:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, this might be a mistake to ask but I've been thinking of it for awhile now.

Can you convert this to a straight 4 pill with no driver?

Can you rig it up to where you can cut the driver on and off?

Can you remove or switch the driver on/off and using it as a straight 4 pill, drive it with another amp like the 2 pill Dave?

What would be needed to do any/all of these ideas? Why you ask? Just because I have free time on my hands and need something to do.

No seriously I have a big sheet of diamond plate outside I bought for my truck. While sitting in the shack I got to thinking about having it bent into a case for one big amp. I'd like to get a huge heatsink and basically put the 2 pill and M400 inside the diamond plate box. I'd like to be able to switch from the 2 pill over to the M400 and be able to turn that driver on and off and while it's driver is off, us the other side (200) to drive the remaining 4 pills.

Is this possible? Or am I asking for more trouble than it's worth?
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Therealporkchop
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Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 8:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Come on now....somebody has to know how to do this.

Somebody here has done this I'm sure. What's up...you guys see my name and say "oh no, it's that crazy boy again".

Yes, this is hair-brained but I say why not?
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Mrsandman
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Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 8:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i would not try it..
send it back to dave .or sell or trade for a 4 pill ...or if you really want to find someone local to put a swich in it and hit it verry soft
that amp is made to get up and go on 1 pill driver..good luck
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Georgeodjungle
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Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i would think you could:
i've never done it but,
with some relay magic?
something like....
switch from high to low drive.
sounds like this weeks project.
thanks.
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Georgeodjungle
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Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 2:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i think it could be done.
lil relay magic.
convert from high to low drive & back again.
what amps are you playing with?
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Georgeodjungle
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Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 1:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

o.k. got her figured out
looks like less than 12 parts.
also need to know how many watts are ya gonna push with it?
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Therealporkchop
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Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 2:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, it's a Davemade M400.

I'm pushing my S9 into it. So I believe it's around 1 watt of key and swinging around 50 watts PEP. I believe the RMS wattage on the radio is around 15 or so watts. That's mobile.

I'd kinda like to use it in my shack. Right now I'd be running it with my Galaxy 77 which does about the same numbers as my S9. But I do have a brand new 2995DX sitting out there that I've never used. So it would be nice to be able to push that into it.

I've got one of those Boomer 500's too. It had the 4 1446 transistors in it and I swapped them out for 2879's. I know I've read that the 46's are stronger, but I actually see more power from it just from the transistor swap. I've changed nothing else inside it to go along with the transistor swap.

But if I can't use it with the 2995DX, I'd atleast like to be able to switch the driver off. Especially since I've never seen one that you could do that to. Not a Dave anyway, and not around here.

If you can switch the driver out of line, does that mean you could push the straight 4 with another amp like a 2 pill? Or would that overdrive the driver section anyway?

Thanks!!!
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Georgeodjungle
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Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

how about:
just using the boomer With a switch for low & high drive?
you could even have medium to.
so you could use a stocker, pumped up & a export.
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Therealporkchop
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Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, the Boomer is a straight 4 pill. So I guess that would cut hacking my Dave up.

Yeah, being able to switch between high and low drive with it would be nice. The only thing to that is I've been pushing it with a hopped up radio already. Now what I'd like to do with it would be drive it with something kinda small. Something like a 1 pill or 2 pill. I had a 33HML that I put a 2290 in and it would drive the snot outta that box. I was just scared to keep it up. I figured I'd blow it up or something.

So yeah, if you know how to solve that issue let's go that route...
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Georgeodjungle
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Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 5:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

how many watts do ya want to run in her?
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Therealporkchop
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Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 5:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't know. Let's just say it's possible to push a two pill into it. Then that would be what I'd want to do.

Probably what, around 150 watts RMS and 250-300 PEP, again a guess.

OR wait a minute. I would like to be able to drive it with my RCI-2995DX. I've got a brand new sitting in the shack and haven't even talked on it enough to say it's used yet. Still have the factory box and warranty sticker on the side of it. I don't know what it'll do. But that is what I'd like to use with it.
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Georgeodjungle
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Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 8:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

with the dave turned off, it's basicly not there.
relay migh chatter but that's just a diode.
i'm looking for a small reed relay for the 400.
@ 200 watts in there's a lil arc i don't like.
i'm thinking on just switching the wraps on the input or feed transformer.
the norm is just to remove or add wraps.
this is great!
making me think....
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Therealporkchop
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Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 6:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No not the Dave. Let's scrap that project.


I'm talking about the Boomer 500 base amp I have. The one with the power supply built into one side.

That is the one I swapped transistors in. I ditch the 1446's for 2879's. I know somebody is going to say "man the 1446's are stronger". All I can say is just from swapping them I picked up about 100 Watts PEP more than what I had before. And I tested them all after I took them out and they are all good.
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Georgeodjungle
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Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i ment when the "driver" is turned off
it's like been bypassed.
& the 1446 will go to like 60 mhz.
p.s.
still working on the high low thing.
so far i ditched the reed thing.
right now i'm up to 6 parts....
it works on paper!
gonna test this weekend.
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Therealporkchop
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Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 6:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cool chilli beans...

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