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Dale
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Post Number: 547
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

when i started out the ra dio 2 have was a 2510.many till this day say that.i was wondering were magnum ssb radios. are going to be the radios of the future,the radio to have.like the 2510 was backin its hay day.how does magnum ssb radios compare to the old school leader ther 2510
mainly in the recieve area.has anyone ever compaired any ssb model magnum to a 2510 or lincoln.if so id like 2 hear about it
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Patzerozero
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Post Number: 3049
Registered: 7-2004


Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 8:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i think the 2510-type radios are a bit more ham-like. the omega/delta models are somewhat ham-like, except for the echo & talkback junk. the S9 is CB-like in operation. nobody will ever overtake galaxy/connex radio because of the way they flood the market for truckers. the 2510 as well as the magnums have such a small fragment of the industry, like uniden, magnum will trickle out what they can afford to produce until they can no longer afford to do it. while the 2510 may have been 'the best' of its day, i think there is an argument for the magnums to be 'the best' of their day. that's hard to answer though, because if 75% of magnum purchasers like & keep their radios vs only 50% of galaxy users, that's still probably 100 times as many galaxy people! performance-wise, the 2510 was geared towards sidebanders, while the magnums seem to be geared towards AMers. i think the magnums have a more commanding presence then the 2510's when transmitting, & their receivers have different quality/sound to them, but awful close to the same sensitivity. that observation is from the last 2510 i had on the bench next to my S9 & omega. the last lincoln i heard was being compared to a cobra 200gtldx. the lincoln won that 1 hands down.
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Kid_vicious
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Post Number: 1864
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the way i see it; there was a certain period of time in our history where it made good economic sense to produce high quality communications gear marketed to the radio hobbiest.
that time came in the late 70's and early to mid eighties, and worked out very well for us because the CB boom coincided perfectly with the advancements being made in the consumer electronics industry and the introduction of IC chips.

i really doubt we will see this phenomenon repeat itself in our lifetimes.
so snatch up all those mb8719 chassis and the 2510's and lincolns, and all the other greats, and i'll see you at the antiques roadshow in 50 years.
matt
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Hollowpoint445
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Post Number: 1283
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't know about that Kid. The newer HF rigs are a world beyond those of only 10 years ago in performance. Granted that's mostly because of DSP, but the better radios rely less on DSP for performance and use it to enhance already solid circuitry. Hopefully that'll trickle down to CBs in the near future, and we'll have some excellent rigs to play with.

I don't disagree that the the Uniden SSB chassis is the standard all others are measured against. If anyone has a doubt, simply compare the current rigs to the Uniden design and you'll see that they have borrowed heavily and some are downright copies of the Uniden 10.695MHz dual conversion SSB radios. The difference is usually quality control in construction and components used.
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Yankee
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Post Number: 1259
Registered: 7-2003


Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 4:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt has hit on it with the correct time frame of late 70s,mid-late 80s.
Yes, that time frame was the hay days for the Uniden sideband radios. This time frame also takes in the Uniden UPd-858 PLL sideband chassis, which was and still is a great radio. Also later in that time frame the Cobra 148, 2000 GTLs came along and not long there after Uniden brought out the newer Madison and the Grant XL/LT chassis, and to this day and time are still in great demand.
Carl CEF-357
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Dale
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Post Number: 548
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Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 4:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thank you pat thats what i was wondering.im thinking about getting one maybe the s9-175 but i donnt know.i want a good ssb radio that noone elsre has.around here theres alot of 2520/lincolns.so i was thinking about a magnum theres only 1 local here with one.but it has to be good on ssb cause thats were im at 90% of the time.galaxys have been made for yrs and i think that magnums will be around for a long while.cause seems theres alot buying them but not many has actually compared them to a 2510
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Kid_vicious
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Post Number: 1868
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Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

when i said, "radio hobbyists", i meant unlicensed ones.
guess i should have worded it differently.

the fact remains though, that DSP technology costs money that the manufacturers wont spend on CB'ers because they dont have to.
and i dont think they are going to be "forced" to do so anytime soon.

never had a magnum radio, but i would like to play with one and see what i think.
matt
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Skullman
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 2:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My two cents ... Don't trow away your 2510 (If you do throw it my way). They were good in thier time and today to a point. What you have to think of is that the majority of your listeners are on cheap 11 meter cb's (not the good ones the CHEAP ones that are broadbanded in thier recieve) so, a converted DSP top of the line HAM rig sounds like . Magnums hands down (from a ham CB'er)are the best. I've had all the rest (Galaxy, RCI, Superstar, down to brands you never heard of) and I say without a shadow of a doubt Magnum has done what needed to be done a long time ago ... MAKE A GOOD RADIO. 73's from the Deadman
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Dale
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Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so your saying magnumis just as good as a 2510 being ya said it beat all others ya posted galaxy,ranger,superstar.im really curious cause most 10 meter radios arent nowhere close to being as good as a 2510 or even a emperior5010 think thats rite for that matter
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Hibuckhobby
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Registered: 7-2005
Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 6:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have both radios (S9 and 2510) right now and for sensitivity, it's close with the S9 just squeaking it out. Both have excellent transmit audio and are within about 5-10 watts of one another in output. The noise blanker and adjacent channel on the 2510 are much better on the 2510. The S9 buries it on AM. Choose your preferred mode of transmission and whether you will have it in a mobile or as a base.
YMMV
hibuck...
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Hyperno_1979
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Post Number: 83
Registered: 12-2005


Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 8:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dale,

I have had my 357 Magnum for over 6 mths now and cannot find a bad word to say about. It is used exclusively on ssb and it performs without a hiccup. Always great reports. Actually it has taken over as my base station of choice, i only fire up the rest of them about once a week to clear the cobwebs out of them.
I have acquaintances that own 2950s and it outperforms them in all areas. Honestly don't know anyone that owns a 2510, although there are plenty out there.
I personally don't think you can go too far wrong with a Magnum.


Bob CEF 703

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