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Milkman21218
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Post Number: 463
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Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 6:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I need help finding a higher DB Gain (Would like it to be 10-13DB) antenna for a 2 meter repeater. Something like a Station Master. Is there anything that Tech 833, or anyone can recommend?
Izzy
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Funtimebob
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Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 7:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Diamond 510
workman UV300/Tram 1481

There is a guy on e-bay that sells the Tram/Workman for under $100. called CQantenna
73 De Bubba
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Sitm
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Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 9:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Diamond X510HDM was designed for strength and performance and is pre-tuned to achieve maximum gain in both the 2m and 70cm amateur bands. (2m: 3 x 5/8 and 70cm: 8 x 5/8). It has a 3 section fiberglass radome with overlapping outer shells for added strength. It comes with stainless steel mounting hardware and radials and strong-waterproof joint couplings. It can also handle high power operation with a capacity of 330 watts 144-148 and 250 watts 440-450 MHz.



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X510HDM Specifications
Frequency: 2M/70CM (146-148 and 440-450 MHz)
Gain: 8.3/11.7 dB
Power: 230/250 watts
Connector: UHF (M-type)
Height: 17.2 feet
Weight: 5 Lbs.
Wind Rating: 90 MPH
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The Diamond X510HDN is the same antenna as the X510HDM but features an N connector rather than a UHF (M-type) connector.
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Milkman21218
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Post Number: 464
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Posted on Monday, July 04, 2011 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks guys! But I'm looking for a commercial 2m antenna to be installed on a 2m repeater. And I was thinking that Tech833 could recommend one with plenty of real DB gain.
Izzy
CEF#502
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Tech237
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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Last repeater I setup I made my own hi-gain antenna - 6 bay co-linear using aluminium rod and then set inside a pvc pipe as the repeater was located on a mountain that had a high ice coverage 6 months of the year ( read no access to site). 6 years later, the antenna and site are still running well.
Tech237
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Funtimebob
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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 2:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Diamond 510 and a few of it's "clones" are about as high in gain that you are going to find on the commercial market for a vertical antenna.

I would be more concerned in checking out the build quality on Eham.

If you want anything with more gain you would probably have to either build it yourself or contact a manufacturer to see if they are willing to build a special order (probably not).

Yahoo groups has a repeater builder group that might be a good source for information but I am pretty sure that it will likely all lead back to the Diamond.
73
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73 De Bubba Honorary O.F.

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Starface
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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 6:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://lakelandarc.org/downloads/stationmaster.pdf
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Tech833
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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 9:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One of the best pieces I have seen written about repeater antennas was on GMRSweb magazine. Do a web search for: "GMRS repeater antennas" +popularwireless.com It's the first result that comes up on Google.

You won't get 10-13 dB gain on VHF. UHF yes, VHF, no. Any repeater antenna that advertises that kind of gain on VHF was obviously measured by the same outfit that says an Antron 99 has 9.9 dB gain on 11m.

In order to get 10 to 13 dB gain on VHF, the antenna would be over 30 feet tall.
Your radio 'Mythbuster' since 1998
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Milkman21218
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Post Number: 465
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Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Tech833 and everyone else.
Izzy
CEF#502

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