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Barracuda
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 7:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Guys,
I found this mod on the net the other day and was curious about something. Currently I believe the Clarifier gives +/- 1Kc adjustment across the full range of the control pot. If the mod mentioned is performed would there be any sacrifice in being able to "dial-in" small changes. That is, now the change is frequency as the control is rotated is based on 2Kc/#degrees of pot rotation. The new change would be 20Kc/#degrees of pot rotation? If that's correct don't you sacrifice "fine tune" ability for range?

Thanks
Barracuda
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Tech671
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 5:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The link you gave is for switchable 10k, nothing to do with clarifier.
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Barracuda
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tech671,
Yeah, I goofed. I posted the wrong URL. Anyway, the question still remains, for clarifier modes that expand the frequency range of the clarifier, do you not sacrifice "fine tune" for extended range?
Currently the unmoded radio would change the frequency by some number of Hz per degree of rotation of the control pot. If you expand the frequency range don't you also increase the number of Hz per degree of pot rotation, therby making it harder to fine tune.
As a potential solution could a multi-turn pot be used or maybe just a bigger knob on the existing pot?
Just a thought
Thanks again
Barracuda
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Viking
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The clarifer will act exactly the same. The switch will simply jump up (or down "depending on channel selector") 10kc.

For example: if your on channel 11 (27.085) and you flip the switch, you will now be on "11A" (27.095) or half way between 11 and 12 (27.105). You will still have a +/- 1Kc adjustment across the full range of the clarifier control pot.
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Barracuda
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 2:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Viking,
Thanks for the info. So, I assume that this is a TX/RX mod, not just an RX. So, coupled with a clarifier mod that lets you adjust +/- 10Kc you could pretty much slide across the whole band?
Thanks again. By the way as you see in my second post above, the original URL was worng, so this is not actually the question I was asking, but the answer is still appreciated.
Barracuda
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Buck
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 2:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your thoughts are correct barracuda....You will sacrifice the fine tuning for the range. I did a clarifier mod to my 148 that was supposed to give me +/-6Kc but it gave me about +3Kc and -14Kc. This works ok for me because I only use it for a base but if I were to ever put it in the moble Id be in big trouble. You can get ten-turn pots which are literaly that...10 turn pots. I am seriously considering buying one for he 148. Digikey has them from $10-$15
Buck
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Barracuda
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the confirmation Buck,
Hey Techs, do any of you happen to know the value of the clarifier pot on a Galaxy dx959?
Thanks,
Barracuda
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Barracuda
Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 2:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tech833, Tech671,
Would you know the value of the clarifier pot on a Galaxy DX959?
Thanks,
Barracuda
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Buck
Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 9:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Barracuda, the service manual says 10k ohm.
Buck
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Barracuda
Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Buck,
Thanks for the info,
Wouldn't you know the only multi-turn pot I have in my junk box is a 10 turn 20K. Time to get out the catalogs.
Barracuda
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Buck
Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 6:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll bet that 20k will work just fine barracuda
Buck
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Barracuda
Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Buck,
You may be right, but this thing is an old clunker from the '70s made by company called Bourne. It's almost an inch in diameter and almost 2" long not ncluding the shaft. I'm going to see if I can find something a touch smaller in the proper value, even though I don't hold too much hope for anything much smaller.
Barracuda
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Crappie
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 5:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Barracuda, There is a simple mod which adds a switch to bypass a certain resistor in the clarifier circuit of the dx2547. With switch off the clarifier is stock - fine control. With switch on the clarifier is course allowing greater range ( 5 kc drop). This should work in the dx959 which uses same circuit board. I haven't seen this mod on the internet, but I will make a sketch and e-mail it to you if you want it. My e-mail address has changed so you won't be able to contact me except thru this forum.
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Crappie
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 5:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Barracuda,
The mod I talked about above will slide down 10kc though I only said 5kc.
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Slim1
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 8:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi crappie;i would be interested in that mod myself.if ya don't mind my asking! you can email
me at slimcdx285@hotmail.com thanks sir,SLIM
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Barracuda
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 1:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Slim1, Crappie, look at the URL I posted at the top of this topic.
Barracuda
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Rightwing
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if the pots too long, measure it and cut the shaft to the same length as the original. use a vise with a cloth on it and carefully use a hacksaw and cut it and file it down carefully.

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