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Wolverine
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 6:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tech 833, in reference to your post on big coil antennas on 3/28/03, I was wondering if you completed your article on "The pros and cons of big coil antennas"?. If not, is the article still forthcoming or in the works?? Thanks.
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Tech833
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wolverine,

Hmmm... Somewhere on my hard drive is an article like that. I need to take it up again, thanks for the reminder!

After I write one of these, I spend hours going over it and simplifying the language. Next, I spend time shortening it (usually a lot). Then, a last look over for language and spelling. Sometimes after looking over the finished product, I feel like crumpling it up and starting over.

I have an easy time writing for other engineers, but not to everyone else I am trying to write for. It actually gets a little frustrating at times. My wife is my reality check. If it doesn't pass the Tina test, it doesn't get submitted. Kind-of like that big coil antenna article.
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Wolverine
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 4:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tech 833, you remind me of some "Writers" I've talked to who tear up manuscripts, while swearing at the same time that "This is not what I'm trying to write!! Dam it". But believe you me, out here in cali,it seems that everyone likes the mainstream Wilson antennas. The exceptions are those like me who believe the hype about big coil antennas enough to purchase and experiment with a such a new toy. Anyway, if you've haven't given up on the article, and if it passes the "Tina Test", we'll be awaiting out here in "Cali". Thanks.
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Alsworld
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 8:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would like to see a writeup as well. I dropped the bucks for one and have no regrets, but have had little time to compare it much except to say the TX and RX is much better than my older K40.

That could be due to many reasons (aging K40, new coax and mount w/better ground, the antenna is higher, I'm just optimistic....ooops.

I really can say I (and those I talk to) have noticed a difference, mainly in (ground wave)distance talking that we have experimented with. That is some of my basis for the improvements from doing the same thing with my K40. I can explain more but better get to work at this moment.

I won't try and put any 'gain' numbers on it though as both Bruce and Tech833 would shoot me. Also, it was not advertised with any gain numbers, just a 1/4 wave made to handle many watts for those that choose to run them. It is very nice (as in quality) made.

Hey Tech833, maybe if I claim some outragous performances that will speed up your article :). (Actually I'm pretty honest instead of inflating stuff).

Alsworld

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Tech833
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 1:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alsworld,

You make me laugh!

Yes, I will put some effort into it. Thanks.
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Barracuda
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Tech833,
Instead of simplifying the language and becoming frustrated yourself at not being facile at that task, how about a few articles that are written at something closer to or at your normal engineering level so we can aspire to that level instead. Raise our bar!
Thanks for all your tech knowledge and hard work. It's appreciated

Barracuda
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Tech833
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 2:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi cuda,

I understand what you are saying, and I am flattered. I don't think of it as 'raising' any levels or anything, I just want to write in such a way that the greatest number of people can not JUST understand it, I want people to actually feel like they got something out of it.

When I write things for the engineering community, it reads more along the lines of instructions than an article. Recently on a radio review, I was complimented by the magazine editor and by several 'letters to the editor' on text that I painstakingly re-wrote over and over so that it read like a story rather than instruction sheets. I put a lot of effort into that piece, so that makes me feel good.

To me, reading fiction (untrue stories like Alice in Wonderland) is a complete waste of time and a waste of a portion of my preciously short lifespan. It's not true, it is not reality. Therefore, it does not matter. I don't want someone reading my stuff to ever feel like I have wasted a single precious moment of theirs on this planet. Moreso, it is important to me that my facts are solid and well researched and that the reader can tell that what they are reading is true, solid, and not a waste of their time to read. All the while, I have to keep it entertaining and easy to follow so that their mind does not wander as they read since it is technical information which requires a great amount of attention span to absorb.

I am my own worst critic. Someday when I retire from the professional broadcasting community, I will probably reveal my whole identity and everything here. It might all make sense after that.
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Alsworld
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 8:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well we do appreciate all of your efforts, especially doing all of this for free for us. Like all the Techs here, you have your "normal" full time jobs, and help educate us as well with the facts vs. fiction. Thank you Tech833 and all the Techs as well for what you do.

Alsworld
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Tech833
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alsworld,

People like yourself are why I do this.

BTW: Forummaster- I accidentally sent an article to one of the print magazines as 'Tech 833' instead of my pen name for that publication. Someone over there actually KNEW what it meant! Copper extends further than you know...
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Tech808
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 1:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alsworld,

I agree with Tech833, It makes doing the Forum a pleasure when people like you acknowledge our efforts.

We all try to do the best job we can, and thank you for your kind words.

Lon
Tech808
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Wolverine
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 2:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Big "AMEN" to that, to Alsworld and the Techs, for the appreciation, and the education.
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Barracuda
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 3:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tech833,
Two quick things,first in reading my previous post in this thread, I did not mean to imply that you do not do a great job of crafting your posts. I was simply responding to a comment you made in an earlier post.
Second, The main point I was trying to get at was, all of the techs and other contributors do amazing jobs of answering questions on "what" and/or "how". I guess for most that is adequate (nothing wrong with that, and I, for most things, fall into this group), however, there are certain topics where a follow-on "why" answer would be desireable. Now, I recognize that "why" questions are, relatively speaking, the harder to answer and often take the most time to address. What I was really suggesting is that, given the time that you choose to allocate to the responses you give, that maybe some would appreciate it if occasionally some time was spent on answering the "why" of the topic. Reference reading info, if handy, would be useful too. (Maybe ForumMaster can make a spot to collect them and maybe Copper might even sell a title or 2, just a thought.)

Again, I certainly appreciate your efforts regardless of the above.

Barracuda
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Tech833
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 7:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Cuda,

I did not take your post the wrong way at all. In fact, I saw the incredible compliment you gave me. Thank you.
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Wolverine
Posted on Friday, June 06, 2003 - 3:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tech 833, The forum members are just trying to inspire you, That's all. We all know that article is lying dormant somewhere inside of you. We are just trying to coax, nurture, compliment you etc., to get your creative "Juices" flowing, so that one morning, Bang! Illumination! Intuitive flash! You know what I mean? Is this treatment to you working?? I think it is! Just cram for the "Tina Exam".LOL. You'll be alright. I can't wait to see the article. Take care. Wolvie.

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