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738
| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 5:31 pm: | 
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I have not kept up to date on the current radios, I have been away from 11 Meters for about 12 years. I want to know what are the current SSB models that have the best RX (Dual Conversion) with a standard IF (so I can add a CBCI Xtal Filter). Back in my days the hot radios were the 148GTL 1st Generation, Madision 2nd Generation, and the 2000 GTL, Grant, etc. Those were the ones with the clean receivers. I know nothing about the RX on the newer currently available radios. It must be able to operate a little above 40 also of course and I'm interested in Base and Mobil models. Thanks for any suggestions......... |
Rippedradio
| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 8:09 pm: |
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738, for the best rx on mobile i think the 2950, 2970's are the best you can get, the president lincoln is also a good one but they are hard to get now! for a base station the best rx i have found yet to date would be my kenwood 430s/at the ranger base stations which are coppies of the mobile units are also good but for that price you can get a 100w general coverage receiver from kenwood, or any of the others out there and mine will go from 0khz to 30mhz continious no breaks! if u talk sideband only i would get an amature radio for a base but if u use am at all i would not reccomend it as they are not good on am at all! just my two cents good luck!! 73's chris 155 st. louis mo |
Znut
| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 9:30 pm: |
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Lincoln. Your crystal may not work, I don't know. I don't even want one for mine (2510, same thing.) Clean SSB, great reciever and the radio will work for a very long time. I have a late 80's model still going and you would have a hard time trying to get it away from me. |
738
| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 10:42 pm: |
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Thanks for the replys guys, will start looking at some of these options. In a big city a Xtal filter is a great option as there is always a lot of dirty radios! I have had great success in the past with those CBCI filters and bleedover. You got to see this town (Las Vegas) talk about urban density! Need one here for sure.
73 |
Rippedradio
| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 11:55 pm: |
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738, also the filters on an amature radio will surpass any of thoes in a normal cb/converted ham radio basicly made for cb band! with my 430 i may have 8 s-units of hash and trash i turn the filter on and it wipes anything out but the things u want to hear! but like i said for am use there no good at all! something to consider! good luck with your search! chris |
Kc0gxz
| | Posted on Friday, July 11, 2003 - 4:50 am: |
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738
Rippedradio made some good suggestions as far as the Kenwood TS-430 and a President Lincoln go.
The new Lincolns are strong and no other 10 meter/CB radio on the market can hold a candle to their receiver.
The new Ranger RCI 2950/70-DX models do not impress me at all. They are nothing like the originals. And speaking of that, if you can find a original RCI-2950 or 70, I would jump on it. No cheap Chinese-made surface mount •••• there.
Since you are a 6 meter operator, you might want to consider the Kenwood TS-690. It's full general coverage from DC to 30 like the Kenwood TS-430 but it also has 6 meters in it with 100 watts of SSB power in all bands. I see them on Ebay every so often. Since you're a Ham, stay with Ham gear if at all possible.
Out of all the 10 meter radios on the market, the only real Ham radio out there any more is the President Lincoln. I'm sure you remember the HR-2510. The Lincoln (aka HR-2830) has replaced it.
All the rest of the 10 meter stuff out there are pretty much just CBs with toys in them. But they DO sell well and the CBers just love those toys. And believe me, I have been in the Ham/CB business long enough to know what I'm talking about.
Drop me a line at kc0gxz@aol.com if you would like. I can bring you up to date on the current models. Copper Electronics carries most of them.
73s.
Jeff, kc0gxz.
PS: I hope you're going to stay with this forum. There are a lot of good people here. Both Techs and members are here to help. I can't say enough good things about them. We have fun here. |
738
| | Posted on Friday, July 11, 2003 - 6:34 pm: |
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Thanks for the info. I will e-mail you, and yes it's great here, hope to get more involved as I bring myself up to date. No (or few if any) Trolls here. I got so sick of reading QRZ and Eham every topic they would manage to turn to #%%#! I think I will go for a HF/6M as I still get some fun out of 6M (if only they would QSL) and everybody is correct about the RX. Got so brainwashed by the CB ver. Ham thing I forgot I could go that way, ha., ha.
Thanks everybody.
BTW I'm programing a dualband for a old Ham friend and he loaned me his near mint Siltronix 1011D to use until I get set up again. Never saw one before, nice. Got to order a antenna soon wish I could put up a 5/8 or better but got to do a low profile 1/2 wave when I sneak back on the roof and trash the 2M verticle and replace it with the 1/2 wave 1/4 wave or whatever I decide on.
73 |
Rippedradio
| | Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 1:23 am: |
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the newer 2950's and 2970's are not near the radio's of the older models, i got lucky enough to get an old style 2970 brand new right after they quit making them and i will never sell it! anyways good luck in your search! 73's chris |
Highlander
| | Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 7:08 am: |
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I would consider the Magnum 257 and it's clones to be viable 10 meter radios - They have a pretty hot receiver on them, repeater offsets, microprocesser controlled, etc. If I were a newly licsensed ham with a modest budget, a 100 dollar all-mode 10 meter radio would be a great buy!
On the 2950DX vs 2950 thing, from reading several other forums as well as this one, my impression is that the newer models are an upgrade of the non-dx models in terms of performance/reliability, but are unpopular in some circles where surface mount design is a drawback. |
Bigbob
| | Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 12:07 am: |
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My galaxy dx2517 has excelent recieve,very good s/n ratio. |
Highlander
| | Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 8:47 am: |
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Bigbob, my 2517 is great, too - but I don't consider it to be a viable 10 meter radio, it is a bootleg CB.
I have compared it to a Lincoln, and a Yaesu FT-847 on freeband SSB, and I gotta tell you, it really does pull out the weaker ones. It beat out the Lincoln in terms of sensitivity, and was right up there with the 847, too. Of course, the FT-847 has IF shift and DSP, and I have the optional Collins SSB filter in it, so it can do things that the 2517 can't in terms of selectivity / noise suppression, but we're talking apples and oranges (not to mention 1000 bucks difference!) |
738
| | Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 3:22 pm: |
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Hey guys, I'm still reading your posts here. The Siltronix 1011D is mine now, but I will still need a main radio as this is more of a "just nice to have type radio". I just want to get back on track with the topic. It's 11M's I'm interested in not 10M at all in either stock 11M radios or 10M converted to 11M. I'm hoping to get a HF/6M radio because I do enjoy 6M also and Shortwave would be great too, but just in case I come across a really good deal on one of the above mentioned radios I will be better informed as RX has always been the most important factor to me.
If I'm lucky I will be able to sell my 1011D (after I play with it) and my 6M FT-620B and invest in a HF/6M that will solve many issues!
Thanks for the replys. Love this Group, think I will make it my Homepage!
73 |
Ibacbfreq
New member
Username: Ibacbfreq
Post Number: 3
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 2:22 am: |
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I think for just 10-11 M the htx 100 is hard to beat at SSB RX. If I am corect they are like the first gen 2510 but they do not bother with AM so their IF or filters are tighter. If this is not the case I would like to hear why the HTX 100 has better SSB RX than any 2510 I have ever used. Thank you [Copper forum and all users]for the fun and info packed internet slomo qso's |
Racer_x
Intermediate Member
Username: Racer_x
Post Number: 237
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 7:46 pm: |
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Ibacbfreak - There is actually a web page that confirms your suspicions:
Moderators Note
The link above was removed as it contained links to competitors web sites which violates the Copper Forum Rules posted at the top left of the forum for members to read and follow. |
Yarddog983
New member
Username: Yarddog983
Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 8:30 pm: |
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My 2980WX RCI has very good SSB & AM RX I also had a Connex 4800DXL which was good also.If it has a Ranger board in it chances are you'll like it. |
Racer_x
Intermediate Member
Username: Racer_x
Post Number: 238
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 8:48 pm: |
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Sorry - didn't see the link to that other web retailer. I didn't knowingly try to circumvent it. |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 2396
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 10:42 pm: |
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Ibacbfreq
The HTX-100 is a bit tigher than the 2510 or the HTX-10 however there are DSP and SCAF filters you can buy and process the audio to razer sharp. My bet is BEST all around radio is Lincoln with chipswitch but the MAG 257 does realy well too. As for leagal sets the GRANT LT is very nice .... but hard to find. |
Bc910
Intermediate Member
Username: Bc910
Post Number: 487
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 10:52 pm: |
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BTW:
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Havn't done it in a while 
BC |
Mrsandman
Member
Username: Mrsandman
Post Number: 68
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 8:07 am: |
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2510!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and 2970dx great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Pig040
Advanced Member
Username: Pig040
Post Number: 753
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 11:20 am: |
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Haven't missed it, either, lol
Rich |
Bc910
Intermediate Member
Username: Bc910
Post Number: 488
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 1:10 pm: |
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Just gonna have to do it some more
BC |
Ibacbfreq
New member
Username: Ibacbfreq
Post Number: 7
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 5:03 pm: |
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DSP and SCAF filters are great but you can use them on a radio that has the better filters and get the best of both |
Scrapiron63
Advanced Member
Username: Scrapiron63
Post Number: 800
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 5:20 pm: |
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One thing is consistent in this thread, seems like everyone thinks his brand is the best. I'll drink to that.   |
Racer_x
Intermediate Member
Username: Racer_x
Post Number: 248
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 8:04 pm: |
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Scrapiron63 - I own or have owned nearly every brand of CB made in the last 15 years or more, and that's what I base my opinion on. Most are at least okay, some are very good, and very few can lay claim to being excellent.
Without exception, I find Uniden made radios to be the best, and I think if you take a look, most manufacturers copy the basic Uniden design and have since the 80's.
Not surprisingly, the HTX-100 was made by Uniden. |
Patzerozero
Advanced Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 641
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 9:15 am: |
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i agree with bc 100 and S9 percent.
the S9's receiver is VERY VERY good. i think the texas ranger 296's receive is fairly close to that of my unmodded grant lt's receive. the 696f mobile's receiver is NOT the same.
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