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Wendy
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Username: Wendy

Post Number: 61
Registered: 6-2004


Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 9:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can anyone explain to me what a preamp is? What does it do? How does it work? Why do I need one?
Thanks Wendy
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Tech808
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Post Number: 3388
Registered: 8-2002


Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wendy,

A Pre-Amp will give you up to 27 to 30 or more DB gain on Receive.

If you can just barely hear someone in the distance you can flip your pre-amp on and bring them in Much Cleaner & Clearer, up to several S units.

Lon
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Hollowpoint445
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Post Number: 282
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 6:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They have a downside too. They amplify everything including the noise. If it's noisy a receive amplifier won't do anything for you except make the noise louder. Generally speaking, most CB radios are sensitive enough that you don't need a receive amplifier.

Scannists use them because higher frequency signals are attenuated more by coax. If you amplify the signal right at the antenna you can overcome the coax loss and even hear signals you wouldn't hear without the amplifier.

It's useful to have a variable gain control so you can turn it up or down as needed. Strong signals can cause the amplifier to do weird things (oscillate) and make it impossible to listen to anything at all unless you can cut the gain back.

For a 2 way radio you'd need one that can switch in an out when you transmit.
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Hatchet
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 7:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It also amplifies the noise the same amount as the signal. So 98% of the time you still cant hear them because of all the noise. Ive never seen a preamp that cleans up the signal and dosent amplify the noise
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Highlander
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Post Number: 595
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 3:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just turn up the volume on the radio, same effect!
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Bc910
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Post Number: 95
Registered: 7-2004


Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 6:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Highlander;
I have never agreed with any one more in my entire life!
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Bruce
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Post Number: 1507
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 7:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NOW preamps DO have a use if your in a VERY quite location. Some older CB radios like STOCK Lincolns CAN use a bit of help. However when the skip rolls all the preamp is going to do is give you a higher "S" meter reading. The only preamp that REALY works good is a mast mounted one feeding a VERY long coax ....... This is done on bands like 2 and 3/4 meters and can make a 10 or more DB ( 3 times or more sensitivy ) difreance in copying a signal. In some radios changing the RF amp stage is a worth while change ..... a recomended mod for a lincoln.
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Wendy
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Username: Wendy

Post Number: 62
Registered: 6-2004


Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 9:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you all for the advice.
Wendy
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Tech548
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Post Number: 264
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 9:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey guys.

Speaking of Pre-amps and noisey receivers, ever play with a tunable DSP filter? It's a great way to get rid of atmospheric hash and trash.

My personal favorite is the MFJ-784. A bit pricey but very versitale

Jeff
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Bruce
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Username: Bruce

Post Number: 1509
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 7:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have DSP built in to my FT-100D and a Radio Shack DSP for my FT-840 also i use a audio filter on the Grant LT it works good To. As for preamps i use a preamp sold by copper on the grant again when things are dead it does help.
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Drcat
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Username: Drcat

Post Number: 8
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is their a device that could separate noise from signal?

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Tech291
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

DrCat,
a dsp or digital signal processor is about as close as you can get to that.
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Drcat
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2004 - 5:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi: Where could I see a picture and read more about them?

73

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