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Boxcar
Intermediate Member
Username: Boxcar
Post Number: 341
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 8:47 pm: | 
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I have a quick question. Is there anyway to set up a base antenna inside a garage without taking away the actual performance of it being outside? I just found out recently that my new house that's being built does not let anybody put any antenna's of any kind outside on their house. Kind of stinks that certain areas and neighborhoods have certain guidelines but what can ya do? I do want to know if copper sells any inside type base antenna's that might be short enough to fit in a garage that's about 14 feet high. Thanks guys! |
Saddletramp025
Member
Username: Saddletramp025
Post Number: 88
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 9:06 pm: |
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I-max 2000 painted camo in a tree should do the trick. |
Boxcar
Intermediate Member
Username: Boxcar
Post Number: 342
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 9:34 pm: |
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New house saddletramp. No trees as of yet but I am wondering if I set it up, how long would it take for a neighbor to say something about it. People are weird these days and don't understand this hobby that's been around for years ya know? I appreciate the input though! |
Dx431
Senior Member
Username: Dx431
Post Number: 1032
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 9:42 pm: |
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One word. Dipole!  |
Dx431
Senior Member
Username: Dx431
Post Number: 1033
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 9:45 pm: |
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I forgot one thing.If ya don't want to got that route, there's always the Flgpole Ant.  |
Hotwire
Intermediate Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 353
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 9:48 pm: |
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I agree with Dx431. |
Boxcar
Intermediate Member
Username: Boxcar
Post Number: 343
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 6:13 am: |
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I'm actually looking at a base antenna that's short enough to install in a garage. The flagpole idea might work though Dx431. I would hate to have to use a dipole but that might be an idea also. I just never really got out far with those dipole antenna's. |
Hotwire
Intermediate Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 357
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 8:43 am: |
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Hey boxcar man I just remembered. There is an antenna specially designed for indoor 11 meters. Its only about 3-5 feet tall and made by the samme company that makes the Imax. I believe its called the Bandit base antenna. Its real thick like the bottom part of an Imax. I read some reports about it from guys with your same problem and they were happy. I think they run around 100 bucks. Also I believe they can handle up to 2 kilowatts and have an adjustment for swr. |
Road_warrior
Advanced Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 566
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 9:55 am: |
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The only bandit antenna i ever heard
of is the size of a A-99 antenna (18Ft).
If you can find one, a Top One Antenna
may just fit in your garage, but, it has
no tuning system, so, he may not tune
indoors.
If you could park your vehicle close enough
to where your radio room is, you could run
coax from mobile antenna on vehicle to
radio room.
You could sit a mobile antenna on your
air conditioner, then remove it when not
using radio.
Flag-pole antenna or some type of indoor
base antenna others of stated about.
JIM/ PA/ CEF 375 |
Dale
Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 60
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 5:06 pm: |
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i would do a dipole also. |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member
Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 629
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 9:24 pm: |
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A dipole in the attic or in a tree. To answer your inside the garage question, find an astroplane. It should fit in the garage.
mikefromms |
Boxcar
Intermediate Member
Username: Boxcar
Post Number: 344
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 10:15 pm: |
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Seriously good ideas here. I never thought of using a mobile antenna say like on the air conditioner. Problem is maybe I'd get interference though but I'm thinking who cares. I hate to be the new guy with an attitude with this hobby of mine but if they want me to stick by the rules and set up an antenna inside the garage, I can most definately do that but if I run any power, I'm most likely going to bleed over somebody's t.v. or something. I just think the higher up the better it would be and the less interference I would have but certain neighborhoods have certain homeowners associations and the rules can get a little silly. I can see the reasons behind these rules so fred sanford doesn't move in next door but c'mon. I did have a buddy at work that says get a ham ticket and the fcc tries to back the guys in putting up towers in neighborhoods that will not let you set them up. Any comments? |
Alsworld
Advanced Member
Username: Alsworld
Post Number: 913
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 12:51 am: |
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Firestick makes an indoor base antenna for situations such as yours (antenna restricted areas). It is on their website.
Haven't used one personally but it is an option for you that is different than mentioned above.
Good Hunting
Alsworld |
Road_warrior
Advanced Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 568
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 8:20 am: |
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Boxcar,
You may want to start a new thread
with your ham ticket, FCC question.
I don't know the answer to that one.
But, i'm sure someone can help.
JIM/ PA/ CEF 375 |
Bigbob
Senior Member
Username: Bigbob
Post Number: 1912
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 7:24 pm: |
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Put 9 square feet of roof tin(steel) in the rafters of the garage and stick a wilson 5000 to it,problem solved,el-cheapo hidden ground-plane.Bigbob |
Boxcar
Intermediate Member
Username: Boxcar
Post Number: 345
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 7:33 pm: |
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Good call road warrior. It's the least I can do is ask around in that section. Appreciate it!! |
Patzerozero
Advanced Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 799
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, May 23, 2005 - 10:02 am: |
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there's also an antenna that uses the metal thru roof vent tubes from bathroom...a friend at a mobile home park in orlando uses 1 to talk dx on 2970 with some success. |
Jinks03
New member
Username: Jinks03
Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 9:26 pm: |
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Since it's going to be a new house invest in a antenna tunner and make your self a rain gutter dipole. If you can do it with a flag pole why not a gutter? (just a thought) |
Slugo4449
Junior Member
Username: Slugo4449
Post Number: 47
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 12:58 am: |
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You could also build a double bazooka out of coaxial cable and lay it on the roof and use a tuner.
Try doing a search for "STEALTH ANTENNAS" using a search engine on the internet.
I too live in a restricted area. I have a delta loop in the back yard. It just looks like a triangle made out of wire. very easy to make and very easy to feed to make it vert or horiz.
I made a fold over tower out of 4X4's. I used black plastic coated 12 gauge wire. The formula is 1005 divided by frequency. The total length of the loop would be just under 37 feet for CB.
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Al_lafon
Member
Username: Al_lafon
Post Number: 54
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 1:15 am: |
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Hello time for a new Flag pole right make a copper j pole inside a 5/8 one and the flag
pole 40ft run a search for j poles and 5/8
j pole Calculator to find your info i run
a stacked 5/8 j pole here. pvc pipe
AL Lafon / N3IZR |
Al_lafon
Member
Username: Al_lafon
Post Number: 55
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 1:51 am: |
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Well you can go out and look to see if you can
find them little dish ant called sat tv if you
find some make a list put up your antenna
and when someone makes a fuss tell them all the
antennas have to come down ( haha ) |
Tech833
Moderator
Username: Tech833
Post Number: 1038
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 9:57 am: |
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The inside-garage antenna idea will be very disappointing, especially if your house has stucco or Hardi-panel siding.
A mobile on an air conditioner will work ... like a mobile on a really small car.
Best bet here is an Antron 99 inside a fiberglass flag pole. Many companies sell hollow fiberglass flag poles. If you bury a lot of ground wires around the base of the pole (antenna) and run your coax underground, you will have outstanding performance and a quiet receiver. Also, nobody will know you have a CB unless you tell them.
P.S.- Do not run power to fix an antenna problem. Besides being against the law, and being very un-neighborly, it is simply the wrong way to fix this. If you can't "get out" then you can't hear either. You can't talk to who you can't hear. |
Starface
Intermediate Member
Username: Starface
Post Number: 113
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 7:24 pm: |
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Boxcar here is another good antenna for indoor use.
Hope this help
Till next time
Starface
CEF#476
Southeast Net Control
Auburndale,FL |
Kb9umt_don_123
New member
Username: Kb9umt_don_123
Post Number: 7
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 10:11 pm: |
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Boxcar:
I think the suggestion of a vertical painted to blend in with a tree mounted in a tree is a good solustion but like many of us with new homes there are no trees. The option of putting an antenna inside for CB is one that will limit your communications greatly, it will just not give you much coverage (but if you put it somewhere put it high as you can like in the attic). One other downfall of inside or low to the ground antennas are that the closer you are to your inside electronics and others the more prone you are to RF or RFI/TVI interference problems (and if you have kids or even if you don't running more power is subjecting your family and others to RF exposure). I think a very good solution as metioned is just using your mobile antenna and running coax to it be it inside the garage or better yet outside in the driveway (they can NOT tell you what you can put on your car!). I think your Ham friends suggestion of getting into Ham Radio or getting a Ham license is also a very good step since many Hams work local VHF/UHF repeaters with inside antennas and those Hams on HF (which includes 11 meters or CB band) can and do make world wide communications with simple wires inside the attic. GL on your new home.
de kb9umt Don123 Peoria IL
you can email me direct if you would like direct help on Ham Radio questions kb9umt@arrl.net |
Jon666
Intermediate Member
Username: Jon666
Post Number: 363
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 6:26 pm: |
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that b-100 is junk
i have 2 of them in the closet
they dont get out very good at all |
Slowhand
Junior Member
Username: Slowhand
Post Number: 33
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 7:44 pm: |
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Try a DDRR antenna. I have pics and info on one in another topic, A search should find it. Its only about 6" tall. Its a 1/2 wave radiator. A round DDRR antenna with a round counterpoise would be omni-directional.  |
Patzerozero
Senior Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 1114
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 6:22 pm: |
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i have the midland version of the b-100. jon666 gives it TOO MUCH praise! it's worse then that. it's swr's are 2.5:1 at their lowest on any of 40 channels, & they go up from there! tried it on a boat LONG ago. didn't work well there either. |
Jon666
Intermediate Member
Username: Jon666
Post Number: 365
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 11:41 am: |
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very true indeed |
Bigbob
Senior Member
Username: Bigbob
Post Number: 2097
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 5:13 pm: |
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Well use a variable length cable(match-box)from maco on it HAW,HAW,HEHE.Bigbob |
Wildrat
Intermediate Member
Username: Wildrat
Post Number: 162
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 12:43 am: |
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Get the flag pole and mount an I-Max on the top. Run the State flag to the top of the flag pole, and then put a small US flag at the top of theI-Max. Very small like what they use on small boats, 12"x18" or there abouts. Run the coax down the pole and bury it in conduit/pvc pipe so you don't cut it when you put your irrigation in.
Wildrat
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