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Doggie619
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 3:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i want to buy a beam ant but not sure what to buy.i want it for dx so it needs to be a horz. and vert. both and no bigger than 18 ft long. any suggestions on make and type would be nice.jogunn,maco or any others would be great.
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Tech808
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 5:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Doogie619,

CLICK on the Link Below to see the Antennas that Copper Has to Offer. It will give you a start and let you see the Specs of some of the Antennas on the Market.

ANTENNAS-BASE

Hope this helps,

Lon
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Road_warrior
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 2:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maco Shooting Star is a nice antenna.
4 element, Horz and Vert., 17 ft boom.
Good price compared to other antennas
on the market.
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Primetime314
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 8:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Laser 400 will put others to shame
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Allagator
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 8:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

M104C is a nice antenna too !!!
only thing is youll need a good size rotor to turn it !!!!!!!!

hope this helps !!
Allagator
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Wally38
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Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I love my maco shooting star I just put up a week ago. I shoot all kinds of skip on the horizontal side.
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Dx431
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Posted on Friday, June 10, 2005 - 1:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maco M103C is a good ant, and doesn't take an expensive rotor to turn it. A heavy duty tv. ant rotor will turn it without a problem.
I ran one horizontal with a Rat Shack HD TV Ant rotor for about a yr with no problems.

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Bburck
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Posted on Friday, June 10, 2005 - 3:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't really bother with buying a vertical/horizontal combo like the comet, shooting star, super lazer 400/500. Go with a horizontal only M104, M105, or an M106. You will not need the vertical. But, then again.. just my humble opinion..

WoodStock
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Wally38
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Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm glad I got the vertical/horizontal combo. The vertical pulls in my locals very well and my wife's mobile on her way home from work. Then I switch to horizontal for shooting skip. Works very well for that.
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Nickle
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Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well I run a maco m 105 on the flat side only and talk local and skip any time i want to. At 40 feet in the air. IT is one of the better antennas i have owned.
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Road_warrior
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Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dx is better talked while on the Horz side.
But, once in awhile DX signals are stronger
while on Vert side. And Verticle is best
for local talking to base and mobiles.
A dual polarized beam is nice to have in
my opinion.

JIM

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Pig040
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Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you have a lot of locals, verticle is nice, otherwise, horizontal is the way to go, a lot easier to work on a beam with one polarization.
Rich
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Bburck
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Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 2:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I won't disagree that vertical polarization isn't useful.. BUT.. if you have a good omni directional antenna say 40-80 feet in the air you really won't need the vertical side. I do understand the "ears" aspect for picking up weaker stations, but a really good ground plane at the right height will work well, just won't be able to pinpoint the signal since it not only broadcasts "omni".. it listens "omni" too.
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Jellybean
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Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 3:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I ran a Moonraker 4 for quite awhile. It was nice, but even for local~ 10-40 miles, the verticle side was directional. I think you would be happier with
a 4 or 5 element set horz and then put a Imax, Maco 5/8, I-10K, Spectrum 1600, A99 etc... on top. Unless your locals are in one direction from you. Even when the skip was doing better with verticle polarization, a single ground plane or a copy stick worked as good as the MR4's verticle side pointed at them working dx. JMHO
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Road_warrior
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Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 4:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah Bburck you made a good point.
And that does make a good combination.
Guess it's all up to what you want there
Doggie669.
Even though a person runs any kind of
beam setup, its nice to also have the
ole Omni groundplane antenna also.

JIM/PA/ CEF 375
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Iluvrf
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Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 9:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Run your beam flat side and an Imax above it on the same mast and you will have a smoking setup
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Tech291
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Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 9:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with Iluvrf on the setup



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Deceived1
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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 6:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like my cushcraft A4S 4 Element :-)

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