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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 6272
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 10:47 am: | 
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Copper Forum Members,
Here is the GOOD NEWS from the Copper Forummaster!
COBRA 150 GTL-DX
*10 KHZ CONTROL
*15W RF POWER
*20W DUAL FINALS
*FULL-FEATURED 32.8-FT AM/FM RADIO
*4 BANDS
*SWR CALIBRATION SYSTEM
*VARIABLE POWER
*ANTENNA WARNING INDICATOR
*NIGHTWATCHª ILLUMINATION
*TALK-BACK & ECHO CONTROLS
*LARGE, FULL-FUNCTION ANALOG METER
*FREQUENCY COUNTER INPUT
*1-YEAR WARRANTY
As soon as they arrive which may be yet this week or the 1st part of next week the Copper Electronics Price on the
 Cobra 150 GTL DX 4-Band Amateur Radio will be $159.99 
As soon as they are Arrive I will be making a post with the Copper Part Number for everyone. 
Lon
Tech808
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Airplane1
Intermediate Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 471
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 11:03 am: |
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Wow,good price. cant wait to see the cobra 200
price from copper. |
1861
Intermediate Member
Username: 1861
Post Number: 261
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 11:18 am: |
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SOUNDS GOOD , I AM WAITING ON THE SSB MODEL 200 GTL DX |
Bc910
Advanced Member
Username: Bc910
Post Number: 556
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 11:23 am: |
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My wife is gonna kill me!
I gotta get a nother radio
BC |
Coyote
Intermediate Member
Username: Coyote
Post Number: 278
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 11:56 am: |
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WoW... that looks nice, any particulars on it?
Inquiring minds want to know..... |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 6272
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 1:40 pm: |
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COBRA 150 GTL DX 4-BAND AMATEUR RADIO
*10 KHZ CONTROL
*15W RF POWER
*20W DUAL FINALS
*FULL-FEATURED 32.8-FT AM/FM RADIO
*4 BANDS
*SWR CALIBRATION SYSTEM
*VARIABLE POWER
*ANTENNA WARNING INDICATOR
*NIGHTWATCHª ILLUMINATION
*TALK-BACK & ECHO CONTROLS
*LARGE, FULL-FUNCTION ANALOG METER
*FREQUENCY COUNTER INPUT
*1-YEAR WARRANTY
Lon
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 6273
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 1:45 pm: |
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And before anyone ask's what does
**FULL-FEATURED 32.8-FT AM/FM RADIO** mean, sorry but I do not have any idea what it means.
Lon
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Hollowpoint445
Advanced Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 508
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 3:38 pm: |
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32.8' is 10 meters. It's a 10 meter radio. That's what it means. |
Hollowpoint445
Advanced Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 509
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 3:49 pm: |
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Just ordered mine. Can't wait to check it out. |
Timeslice
New member
Username: Timeslice
Post Number: 5
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 4:40 pm: |
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Hi,
Any ideas when the Cobra 200 GTL-DX will be available??
Also any clues on what the Frequency coverage could be if converted into 'Export' mode??
I heard that 25-29Mhz was very likely when converted, what do you think??
Cheers
Alex (TimeSlice)
CEF 607
Ham #146
London England. |
Keithinatlanta
Advanced Member
Username: Keithinatlanta
Post Number: 632
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 5:46 pm: |
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Boy did I just get a laugh! Lon knew I was waiting in the wings! I was reading down the line and immediately thought, I wonder what that means. then I move on further down, and here is his next post of "don't ask".
Good job sir!
Keith |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 6276
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 6:37 pm: |
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Timeslice,
As soon as the Forummaster gives me the Information on the COBRA 200 GTL DX 4-BAND AMATEUR RADIO I will make a post announcing them.
As for what the Frequency Coverage will be after conversion, I will have to wait until I have one to convert and find out.
And the Forummaster will be sending me one from the 1st shipment to do a Review on for the Copper Forum Members. 
Lon
Tech808
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 6277
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 7:00 pm: |
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Bc910,
Just tell here you will be getting it from Copper Electronics with the LOWEST Advertised Price on the Internet and you will be saving HER MONEY. 
And then tell here when she goes shopping she should do like you do and find a place like Copper that will not only MATCH anyones advertised price but BEAT IT!
If you live thru that let us know. 
Lon
Tech808
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Bc910
Advanced Member
Username: Bc910
Post Number: 557
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 9:34 pm: |
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Lon
I allready cant talk, I take it you want me to not be able to walk too?
BC |
Stickshift
Intermediate Member
Username: Stickshift
Post Number: 234
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 12:48 am: |
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When I see "4 band radio", I instantly think it will cover 4 amateur radio bands. It appears to me that it covers the 10 meter band only and the frequency coverage of the radio is broken up into 4 banks of channels within the 10 meter band. This is a little deceiving. Please correct me if I'm wrong. |
Hollowpoint445
Advanced Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 516
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 1:51 pm: |
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Stickshift - Yes, it's just like every other "10 Meter" CB radio out there. I don't know that I'd call it deceiving, but it's certainly inaccurate. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 6286
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 7:08 pm: |
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From my Microsoft Word Thesaurus English (US)
Band =
Group / Gang / Crew / Possie / Crowd / Mob
So I guess with 4 Groups of 40 channels it would be the same as 4 Bands of 40 channels.
Just a thought 
Can't wait to get one and actually see what the coverage is on those 4 bands or 4 groups of 40 channels on 10 Meters and then after it is converted with the 10 & 11 Meter bands.
Lon
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Vanillagorilla
Member
Username: Vanillagorilla
Post Number: 82
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 7:37 pm: |
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Oh great...I finally narrowed down my next rig between the S-9,257 or Connex 4800...and now this..great just great!
I'll calmly sit back and wait for a review on the Cobra 200...maybe tomorrow?
Still have the S-9 in a big lead though..Cobra is a huge underdog in my book..hope to see something great from them again!
Hank '905 |
Brewdirect
Intermediate Member
Username: Brewdirect
Post Number: 130
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 8:41 pm: |
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The new cobras won't be convertable for 11 meter...strickly 10 meter radios. Got the schematics and Cobra has put in a special security circuit to comply with the FCC.
JUST JOKING....you should have seen your faces
Convert em and tell us the deal-o...need to know..Cobra 200 is on my possiblity list too. |
Bc910
Advanced Member
Username: Bc910
Post Number: 558
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2005 - 1:14 am: |
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No face here Brew, I got my S9
Would like to check one a these out tho...
BC |
Wolverine
Intermediate Member
Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 384
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2005 - 9:46 am: |
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Brewdirect, you had me going for a minute. You should have seen my face. |
Twowatt
Junior Member
Username: Twowatt
Post Number: 10
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2005 - 12:12 pm: |
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that's not nice brew - may your camel have fleas.
o.k. schematicaly, what's the modj circuit more like; cobra 148 or galaxy 88? |
Hollowpoint445
Advanced Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 519
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2005 - 12:44 pm: |
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Found out more information about the Cobra 150 GTL DX. Here's the converted "Band Plan":
Frequency Coverage
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A - 26.065 - 26.505
.A - 26.515 - 26.955
B - 26.965 - 27.405
.B - 27.415 - 27.855
C - 27.865 - 28.305
.C - 28.315 - 28.755
D - 28.765 - 29.295
.D - 29.305 - 29.695
The leading decimal point in the channel LED show different bands, and trailing decimal points are used to show the "A" channels.
Conversion is simply a resistor removal - R138. It's an SMD resistor - the radio uses all surface mount devices. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 6320
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 6:43 pm: |
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Hollowpoint,
I am confused from your post above I thought you already had the radio and had done the conversion yourself but I guess I was wrong since in your other post you said you do not even have the radio yet.
How do you know what coverage the radio actually has without having the radio or how simple the conversion is if you have not performed the conversion yourself on it?
From your post in the Modification Area,
(I'm not wild about just an AM/FM radio either, but I bought one just to have one. I should have it Thursday according to the tracking information.)
Lon
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Hollowpoint445
Advanced Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 537
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 7:02 pm: |
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Sorry Lon, I didn't intend to make you think that I had the radio already and did the modification on it. I found the information on a website along with the schematic, board layout, alignment and conversion information.
I read on that site that distributors were given all of this information before the radio was first shipped. I figured Copper was just waiting until they had the radio available for shipment. |
Troublemaker
Intermediate Member
Username: Troublemaker
Post Number: 131
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 9:37 pm: |
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thought about it,then ordered a President Lincoln instead....like I need another Radio....... ....can't ever have enough |
Jon666
Intermediate Member
Username: Jon666
Post Number: 359
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 7:27 pm: |
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is copper going to offer
the peak and tune for this radio for the extra money
like other 10 meter radios ???????? |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 6338
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 5:23 pm: |
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Jon666,
YES!
Cobra 150 GTL DX Mobile Radio
Hope this helps,
Lon
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Hollowpoint445
Advanced Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 547
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 6:58 am: |
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MADE IN THE PHILIPPINES!!!!!!!
And made pretty darn well too! |
Crazy_d
New member
Username: Crazy_d
Post Number: 8
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 8:45 am: |
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Hey, Does anyone think that these radios (either the 150 or 200GTL) might be a rather limited production model like the rare Cobra 148 F GTL DX Plus that was only available in 1997???
I might get the 200GTL for that reason. Cobra seems to do that with their models (short life).
how does the 150gtl pcb board look? Is it pure cobra or is there any similaritys to another of the other export radios??? (just wondering if Cobra is OEM'ing from another source). Thanks |
Jon666
Intermediate Member
Username: Jon666
Post Number: 360
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 5:46 pm: |
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thank you |
Hollowpoint445
Advanced Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 548
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 7:13 pm: |
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I haven't bought any export radios in years, so I can't really compare it to anything made with surface mount components. It does seem very well done, and the heat sink is huge! The final transistors are mounted to the heatsink through the board near the middle instead of at the edge. Overall I'm pretty impressed with the build quality and I can't wait for the Cobra 200 GTL DX!
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Patzerozero
Senior Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 1054
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 10:47 pm: |
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is it up & running yet? WITHOUT realigning a brand new radio, how does it sound, rcv & xmit? is the rcv 148/xl like? what kind of REAL AM power? |
Hollowpoint445
Advanced Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 557
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 5:37 pm: |
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It seems pretty decent. I used it a little bit yesterday and today, and because propogation was strong when I was using it I couldn't make a groundwave contact, so I can't really make a good comparison. Additionally, I'm currently working with a dipole in my attic and that doesn't really help with local contacts.
Overall I guess I like the radio for an AM/FM only unit. The way frequencies are displayed before conversion is ingenious. The decimal point between the digits indicates 28 MHz when it's off and 29 MHz when it's on. The decimal after the second digit indicates 5 KHz when it's on and 0 KHz when it's off. The digits themselves indicate the first two places to the right of the decimal of the frequency in MHz. So "30." on the display would mean you're on 28.305 MHz, and "8.6" would indicate 29.860 MHz.
There is no "Delta Tune" so you can't adjust the frequency, but it does have a 10 KHz switch. Why I don't know because unmodified or modified the radio doesn't skip. When it's modified the "A" channels are shown with the right decimal point. Each band switch selection actually covers two bands, and the left decimal point indicates the second band. CB is on the first of the "B" bands, So CH13 is shown as 13 in the display and 19A is shown as "19." on the display.
Other notes:
The radio receives without the microphone plugged in.
High power is 15watts and Low power is 4 watts. I don't own a decent power meter so I can't tell you how accurate they are.
I don't like the RF gain control. It's the outside knob and the inside knob is the Microphone gain. I constantly fiddle with the RF gain control and rarely adjust the microphone gain so I wish they were reversed.
The speaker leads are on a plug so you don't have to unsolder them to take the botton cover off. Nothing really interesting down there, but it's still nice. |
Patzerozero
Senior Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 1067
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 7:08 pm: |
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YIKES! maybe actually seeing & using it, it would be better then it seems-CONFUSING! sounds as though it could be interesting...it mods easy enough & freq coverage is good-that's a start! then again, i would not buy a radio without SSB, so i'll wait til that comes & see how it does. |
Dale
Intermediate Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 144
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 7:11 pm: |
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hmm sounds confusing about freqs.ill have 2 read your post again |
Hollowpoint445
Advanced Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 561
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 9:26 pm: |
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After conversion it's simple enough. Each switch position (A,B,C,D) has 2 40 channel bands. The left decimal point differentiates between them, and the right decimal point shows the "A" channels. The channel selector just scrolls through them - including the "A" channels - in order.
Before conversion - 10 meter mode - the display is used differently. The two digits show the two digits to the right of the decimal point of the frequency. For example, if you were on 28.300 it would show the two digits to the right of the decimal point or 30.
The left decimal point in the display indicates either 28 MHz when it's off, or 29 MHZ when it on. For example, if you're on 29.600 the display would show 6.0 or 60 if you were on 28.600.
The right decimal point adds 5 KHz, so the display would show 6.0. if you were on 29.605 or 60. if you were on 28.605.
I'm waiting for the 200 GTL DX too. It's going to be a cool radio. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 6373
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 9:54 pm: |
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Sorry but not quite that simple.
If the Radio is 100% "Stock" 10 Meter Mode, it will show channels from:
A~1 -49
B~50-99
C~00-49
D~50-70 on the 4 bands.
After Conversion it will show:
A~1-40
B~1-40
C~1-40
D~1-35
You will notice that Band D is NOT a 40 channel band after conversion but will have 35 channels.
Lon
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Patzerozero
Senior Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 1074
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 10:37 pm: |
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now the stock 10 meter channel scheme reminds me of...??? was it the hr2510 that had 50 channels per band AFTER mod???
after looking at the pic & reading a few times, i THINK i'm starting to get it-no freq display, that's why the decimal point moves... |
Hollowpoint445
Advanced Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 563
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 11:58 pm: |
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Lon - I don't know how yours works after conversion, but mine works like this:
Band A - 80 channels:
1 - 40 (26.065 - 26.505) and .1 - 4.0 (26.515 - 26.955)
Band B - 80 channels:
1 - 40 (26.965 - 27.405) and .1 - 4.0 (27.415 - 27.855)
Band C - 80 channels:
1 - 40 (27.865 - 28.305) and .1 - 4.0 (28.315 - 28.755)
Band D - 75 channels:
1 - 40 (28.765 - 29.295) and .1 - 3.5 (29.305 - 29.695)
Just for snicks I got out my cheapo Radio Shack power meter and MFJ dummy load to check the output, and MFJ 259B to check frequency. It was very close to 4 watts on Low and 15 watts on high at both ends of the spectrum. The top end did seem to drop off a little, but it was only about the width of the needle on the 20 watt scale. The frequency was pretty close - certainly within the accuracy limits of my MFJ 259B.
I didn't feel the need to do any kind of alignment on mine because it seemed to work okay, but I did find alignment information on the web at the same place that I found the conversion information, board layout and schematic. I emailed that information to you Lon - did you get it?
I don't know why you'd need a frequency counter to use the radio as long as you know the band plan. It's similar to other AM/FM "10 Meter" radios - it's just that there are 80 channels per band and the display is a little different. Besides, on AM or FM you can be a good deal off frequency and it doesn't matter.
One more feature I found - The radio remembers the last channel you were on in each band and it does it through power off and power disconnection too. I would imagine after a while without power it would lose the memory, but it's pretty cool anyway. |
Mayor513
Junior Member
Username: Mayor513
Post Number: 28
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 11:59 pm: |
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Yeah, the new Cobra 150 GTL DX looks quite nice. The upcoming Cobra 200 GTL DX will come out in August. That should be nice as well. |
Hollowpoint445
Advanced Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 621
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 9:49 pm: |
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Has anyone removed R676 to access the "Government Frequency Range?" I'm curious if the frequencies are added to the "Export Range" or if they change the radio to an entirely different band plan.
I don't have the necessary equipment to solder SMD components so I'm leary about crushing R676 without knowing what will happen first. |
Bigbob
Senior Member
Username: Bigbob
Post Number: 2110
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 7:26 am: |
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Hey Hollow,buy another one and do it to that one and tell us what happened.Bigbob |
Hollowpoint445
Advanced Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 623
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 8:46 am: |
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LOL - I'm saving my pennies to buy a Cobra 200 GTL DX!
If I had the right equipment I'd just desolder it to see what it does and put it back if I didn't like it - but I don't have the right gear for SMD. |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member
Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 698
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 12:02 pm: |
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Hollowpoint, check your e-mail. These new Cobras should be hot items. I can't believe the incredible prices. These radios will certainly increase in price after they have been in production for a while. Look out Magnum S-9 and Galaxy 95T, a cheaper and similar powerful radio is comiing your way.
mikefromms |
Snowfire
Intermediate Member
Username: Snowfire
Post Number: 132
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 10:32 pm: |
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Anyone know about Cobra coming out with a new Cobra 29 Hi Power? 150esh watts echo and other goodies.Talked to a driver who said he was using one his Dad sent him. Subposeably his Dad work's at Cobra and sent him the radio. He said the radio ain't suposed to come out till early next year.
From what I could tell the radio sounded great heard him 20 miles away and still sounded good.
Just woundering if anyone else knows about this radio.
Cef 294
Snowfire |
