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Airplane1
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Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 513
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 11:52 am: | 
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I want to get rid of my dish tv and want to go with tv antenna to save money. BUT! I heard that in a few years tv wont be transmitting over the air. anyone know how true this is? I dont want to get all setup just to take it down in a few years.
AP |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3001
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 12:39 pm: |
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TRUE
It is supost to start in 2006 and be done in 2015
The FCC is being fought by the TV makers |
Moderator136
Moderator
Username: Moderator136
Post Number: 71
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 1:58 pm: |
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Sorry to say it is true! It will slowly phase out!
Cant tell the future though, But the fcc did pass this.
Its in the works now and are doing it! Its in progress at this time.
I reamber setting in front of a tv in the 1950'S looking at black and white test pattern to see if they had it correct. {hate that sound and screen test), I wanted to watch Roy Rogers real bad.
Any rate its going to be a whole new ball game!!
moderator136
CEF136
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Sg569
Intermediate Member
Username: Sg569
Post Number: 182
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 2:25 pm: |
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That stinks; That means that either you will have to get coble or sat. Either way you will be paying out the nose.
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Coyote
Intermediate Member
Username: Coyote
Post Number: 313
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 7:04 pm: |
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Yeah, that does stink, I still rely on the air tv when the dish goes out during a storm. |
Tech291
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Username: Tech291
Post Number: 214
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 7:41 pm: |
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off the air will not be all together eliminated.it is a switch from your normal(bandwidth consuming) analog transmission to a narrower,compressed digital transmission.Most tv stations are already transmitting in the new format on their new allocations.It will require the consumer to purchase a new digital ready tv or digital converter box.
http://antennaweb.org/aw/Address.aspx
this link has utilities to show just what is available in your local at the presant time.
TECH291
CEF#291
KC8ZPJ |
Jms656
Junior Member
Username: Jms656
Post Number: 25
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 1:57 pm: |
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Sunday, I put up a TV antenna at my Dad's in Michigan City that used to be on a tower I took down by me. I was replacing a smaller one he had on the roof (This new one was 3 times the size)so that he could get Chicago stations better. It was wierd, because after putting up the new antenna, I was getting major RF interference on channel 2. It was like there were 2 different stations.
I looked on the map and the only other town with TV stations in the line of site was Davenport Iowa. I started checking out other channels and found 4 other new stations. I was watching them around news time, and it turned out that they were all VHF stations from the Quad Cities almost 300 miles away. |
Airplane1
Advanced Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 514
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 4:15 pm: |
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So Dennis, I wont have a problem with putting a tv antenna up, there not going to stop transmitting just going digital, am I understanding this correctly?
AP |
Tech291
Moderator
Username: Tech291
Post Number: 216
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 7:11 pm: |
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Thats right Roger,the original deadline for the tv stations to cease analog transmissions was as early as 2008.But at the rate digital ready sets are being manufactured and sold is not yet high enough,widespread across the country to do so.In a nutshell,the majority of the public would lose local broadcast(which the broadcaster is OBLIGATED to provide by their license)
TECH291
CEF#291
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Airplane1
Advanced Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 516
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 7:42 pm: |
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one more thing, sorry I seem stupid I know but even if they go digital by 2008 I can still use an antenna after that, I just need a digital tv or digital box for my tv?
just want to be sure before I buy an antenna.
TECH NOTE
any off the air tv antenna today will be"digital ready"!
AP |
Yankee
Advanced Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 774
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 7:49 pm: |
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JMS656: I believe what you were receiving from 300 miles away, was skip conditions. Television is effected much in the same way as radio is during the sun spot flare cycles. VHF TV is greatly effected by these conditions when using an outdoor TV antenna. |
Starface
Intermediate Member
Username: Starface
Post Number: 123
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 8:08 pm: |
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Airplane "one more thing, sorry I seem stupid"
Remember this please!
The "ONLY" stupid question is the one not asked.
and after you ask the question on avg you only look stupid for less then 5 min's
Till next time
Starface
CEF#476
Southeast Net Control
Auburndale,FL |
Airplane1
Advanced Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 519
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 8:12 pm: |
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Big Thanks!!!!!! |
Hollowpoint445
Advanced Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 605
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 9:39 pm: |
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When propogation on 10 and 11 meters is just crazy strong you can see actual ionospheric skip on VHF TV channels, but it's unlikely that's what it was.
It was more likely troposhperic ducting which can happen when a temperature inversion is nearby. I've seen it pretty regularly lately with the changing weather in the mid-atlantic states. You can tell it's a tropospheric ducting when you also see UHF TV channels from beyond your normal reception area come in very clear. |
Stickshift
Intermediate Member
Username: Stickshift
Post Number: 242
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 1:33 am: |
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Might as well get used to the digital evolution. It won't be much longer and the FM broadcast band will be joining the pack as well. Digital emissions consume less bandwidth than analog signals. Digital has it's place but as far as audio goes, I prefer analog. |
Ak3383
Junior Member
Username: Ak3383
Post Number: 11
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 12:19 am: |
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Dang, I still enjoy watching the skip roll in from Canada on UHF channels here in Indiana. |
Airplane1
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Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 666
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 10:13 am: |
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I got an antenna for tv and reception is as good as with dish or cable, clear as a bell. I just need a digital conversion box when the stations switch to all digital signal.
I met some people where I work who say off air is the best for hi def tv and they have antennas in the attic.
AP |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3405
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 8:13 pm: |
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a ch-2 to 60 will not work on the new digital tv |
Hollowpoint445
Senior Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1008
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 10:28 pm: |
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TV reception is probably better over the air than on cable because cable companies compress the signals which makes them lose lines of resolution. Over the air normal TV has over 400 lines of resolution, and with most cable you get 300 or less. I haven't sprung for a little dish so I can't say how they look, but it can't be better, only as good or worse.
Bruce - What did you mean by "a ch-2 to 60 will not work on the new digital tv"? RF is RF, and as long as the antenna is cut for the frequency of the signal, it'll work regardless of the mode of transmission - digital or analog.
Right not most DTV channels are UHF, but as I understand it, they'll be moving to VHF when analog signals go dark. |
Patzerozero
Senior Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 2257
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 11:11 pm: |
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spoke with ARRL tech person last year regarding a TV issue & he said lower freq TV signals would eventually be abandoned. propagation is propagation, digital or not. the preference would be to move freqs AWAY from where they will be most interfered with. |
Airplane1
Advanced Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 670
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 11:41 am: |
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I thought that TV was going to UHF and getting rid of VHF. Am I wrong? they are selling combo VHF/UHF and UHF only antennas now. I also heard that when the analog is gone the digital channels will move to the original channel numbers.
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Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3439
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 1:18 pm: |
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they are going to uhf and beyond ..... ch 2 - 13 54-220 mhz are going to be sold off to the highest bidder .... |
Hollowpoint445
Senior Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1034
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 1:48 pm: |
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As I understood it, the spectrum from CH54 and above was going to be auctioned off first. That was to happen after analog signals go dark and all of the digital stations move to the original analog channel. |
Cowboy_bob
Junior Member
Username: Cowboy_bob
Post Number: 40
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 7:55 am: |
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Here in parts of NJ Verizon phone company is starting to insall a fibre optics system which will blow cable and satelite away. In one fibre optics phone line you will get the internet, tv and telephone plus |
Hollowpoint445
Senior Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1119
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 10:39 pm: |
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There is so much dark fiber laid across the country that the backbone owners are trying to find ways of using it. When the fiber was originally laid the methods of data transfer were not as advanced as they are today, and it will only improve with time.
A couple of years ago when I was a DSL tech I dealt a great deal with Bellsouth. They've offered FITL (Fiber In The Loop) services to their customers for years. As they replace their old copper lines with fiber optic cable, new services will are offered too. They were the first company I remember to offer DSL through a device known as a remote terminal rather than a central office based solution.
A friend of mine emailed me about a deal that Bellsouth has somewhere in Florida. In that new community they laid fiber to the curb and in some cases, right to the NID on the house. They offer HUGE DSL speeds for incredible prices, as well as TV and other services as well. All of the services are IP based (including voice), so they can easily coexist. Eventually this is where everyone will go, but it will take a long time to get there. |
Rldrake
Intermediate Member
Username: Rldrake
Post Number: 107
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 3:23 am: |
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The quality of digital TV reception will be exactly the same whether your signal is being received over the air, by cable, or by dish.
Either you will get a good signal and have television...
or you will have a poor signal in which case you would have a blue screen with no audio.
With digital it's either go or no go.
There is either a signal good enough to be processed by the receiver...or one not strong enough to be processed. |
Hollowpoint445
Senior Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1121
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 3:13 pm: |
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True, but cable TV channels don't have full resolution of analog TV on their analog channels, why would they have full resolution of HDTV signals? Have you ever compared the resolution difference yourself? It's quite noticeable on local channels, which is why I don't have cable anymore and only watch over the air analog TV.
I think it's in the best interest of cable TV companies to keep their analog signals as long as possible to please their customers who don't own digital equipment. I imagine they'll take HDTV signals and cut the resolution so folks with an analog TV can watch them too. They already take digital signals from satellites and turn them into analog RF to push down the pipe - I imagine they'll carry the practice to HDTV as well. Or at least their "converter boxes" will perform that task. |
Chad
Advanced Member
Username: Chad
Post Number: 715
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 9:54 am: |
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Rldrake said:
"Either you will get a good signal and have television...
or you will have a poor signal in which case you would have a blue screen with no audio."
This is a problem that is inherent with IBOC radio or HD radio, etc. Unlike television our target is often times moving. We simulcast a couple stations on IBOC. The analog broadcast has to be delayed to that of the IBOC because the receiver will switch to analog as the digital cuts out.
For our stations that are loud-n-proud-FM it negates the quality of the IBOC to some degree because I find myself having to make the IBOC sound similar to the analog feed as to keep from driving people nuts when it starts toggling back and forth.
It's a bummer because IBOC sounds so much better but I have to degrade it to that of the analog and squeeze the snot out of it as per instruction of the GM who just has to be the loudest and will pay anything to be that way 
Now I've been playing with a classical station here. The analog is not tweaked around with that much and is pretty clean. I can keep the IBOC clean and it sounds AMAZING for broadcast audio. It's a really cool CODEC!
WOW that was OT But it's one of the caveats of digital that must be dealt with in an analog world
Chad |
Tech833
Moderator
Username: Tech833
Post Number: 1249
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 10:29 am: |
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Chad,
On my FM IBOC stations, I use Orban 8500 processors so the analog and digital sound about the same automatically. The difference is the IBOC chain does not use any clipping, just look-ahead limiters. However, with the 8500 processors, our analog sounds so good anyway, I prefer the analog over the IBOC since to my ears, all IBOC sounds lousy. I have 'dog ears' and I hear way too much digital crunching going on. XM and Sirius give me a headache after an hour or so. I can't stand the way IBOC sounds myself. |
Chad
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Username: Chad
Post Number: 716
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 11:43 am: |
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I don't like IBOC when pushed, the CODEC does not sound that bad when it's allowed to breathe a tad such as in classical and our country station that I allow to have some dynamics. I also have not researched exactly how the CODEC works, they seem to be hushed about it for some reason. Another downfall IMHO is the bitrate, I mean yes, it sounds AWESOME for the limited bandwidth I think a rise in bitrate will help satisfy those with more adept ears and I think it will HAVE to happen if they want to hit the audience they are looking for (people that can afford the receivers and care enough about the audio to spend it)
I too, still like analog. This was my first dabbling in IBOC so like anything, it was a headache at first. I'm more of the audio guy (contract now) and my partner in crime (CE) is more on the RF end. They just tell me what they want to hear and I have at it Unfortunately they wanted analog and digital the SAME, PEROID! GRRRR! We too, are also using 8500's... KILLER units BTW! I'm sure you have been there, the non technical, expaining how they think something should sound in their own words, usually some unique ones too I also worked in live sound as a monitor engineer, I think that's what made me cut out for the broadcast audio guy, "hey this guy knows LOUD" You know the routine, "Excuse me, can I get a little more stupid in my monitor"
I have XM in both of my vehicles. I did not mind it until after a very envlved audio upgrade.... I don't like it as much now. At first I thought my XM receiver went south! Again the bandwidth is too low. I wish they had a way to select/ remove the stations you don't want/like and move that bandwidth over to the ones you do like/listen to. But that's impossible eh?
Best,
Chad |
Tech833
Moderator
Username: Tech833
Post Number: 1252
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 8:28 pm: |
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I agree on the bandwidth. The IBOC algorithm is also way too compressed and a little wasteful. It could be better.
If you have ever made contact with your 8500's via the serial port, I would gladly email you a couple of presets I created for use on mine. In the Sacramento market, there is a real LOUD war going on, but my stations are winning and also sound the best. I go to the root level on my units to squeek the max out of them. The presets are in .orb format, so you would have to load the Orban RAS and stuff before you could upload them into your units.
BTW, CD's are too compressed for my ears. I can listen to records for hours without fatigue, but CD's I can only take for an hour tops. |
Airplane1
Advanced Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 716
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 6:38 am: |
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I now read that the TV OTA is just going to use UHF for digital now till when they go all digital then they will go back to original channels and VHF in 2009. Guess I need a VHF/UHF combo antenna now to be ready for this change back. Lots of people are going with UHF only antennas for digital but if the change is true in 2009 then that will be a waste of money, they will need a VHF antenna again later.
Is this correct?
AP |
Chad
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Username: Chad
Post Number: 717
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 10:03 am: |
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We will be playing with processing after the weather warms a tad, we change it slightly during warmer months to our "summer sound" We should trade setings, I don't know exactly when I will be there though and don't have them on me now.
The whole push across the board is for LOUD, LOUD, LOUD. It's not the CD's fault it's the mastering engineer. When I do mastering I always get "Make it louder, we want to be louder than band X" I am even seeing it at work while mastering classical recordings, it's a shame. I too collect vinyl and love listening to it. Unfortunately in these days it's make it loud or don't make money. I recently mastered a punk/metal album where the band wanted to try something different with the sound. They wanted it HUGE not necessarily LOUD. It was such a relief, we get many comments on the sound of that album, it is indeed huge, it hammers harder than any recent project and has a wonderful stage. Hmmmm, maybe because it can breathe a tad? Our country station is allowed to breathe and sounds great, I can't tolerate 5 minutes of the CHR station before my eyes bug out. But the common folk love it!
When I set the 8500 I use a USB extender via cat5, this then goes to a USB-> serial interface. This allows me to do settings in the car and the partners minivan up to 300' away from the processor. The minivan stereo is stock, the car sounds like my mastering rig, I also use my iRiver / a set of ear-buds and a boom box. This covers most of the listening systems in the comfort of 2 cars and minimal running back and forth.
So far we are winning the loud war too, some stations cheat and over modulate but we have one van set up with a mod monitor/etc and will go to other stations and politely inform them that their modulation is 115%. We have the power and porcessing to play by the rules, others don't and like to cheat, this irritates me
Chad |
Tech833
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Username: Tech833
Post Number: 1256
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 10:38 am: |
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Airplane.
That is untrue. All OTA television will migrate to the UHF spectrum and be all digital. The VHF spectrum will be auctioned for 2-way radio and other uses. There will never again be a VHF TV service in No. America. |
Airplane1
Advanced Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 717
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 11:18 am: |
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833,
So they wont be going back to The old analog allocations in VHF after going all digital. I then need a UHF only antenna, correct?
Wow, I hear so much that it`s easy to get mixed up.
I will however need a digital tunner tv when this happens.
AP |
Hollowpoint445
Senior Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1125
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 7:14 pm: |
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As a casual listener to FM radio, I can honestly say that I don't enjoy it as much as I did several years ago. I suppose most of that is because the stations I listened to for years were sold and one even changed format from album rock to "smooth jazz." I'm now forced to listen to a competing station who has a play list that I don't like (Def Leppard IS NOT classic rock - it's a hair band).
But a lot of it is because the music just doesn't sound very good. I've got a lot of cassettes and CDs from the early and mid '80s that sound so different from the music on the air that it's really surprising. I often find myself unable to recognize a song until I hear the lyrics because the music just sounds so different. It's got no dynamic range. It sounds lifeless and mechanical. I can understand a lot of processing on voice broadcasts like news breaks and talk shows, but for music it's horrible.
I don't pretend that the music I like to listen to is fine art, but I do appreciate it for what it is. The really sad thing is that you can tell the songs were analog recordings that the station or company just converted to a digital format for their use. The best example I can think of is Aqualung. It starts with a fairly quiet piano introduction, and because the compression is so high at that point you can hear almost as much tape hiss as piano and I have to change the station. I usually hit my presets and come back to that station because there is nothing better to listen to, but I can't understand why they put something on the air that sounds so bad. I find myself listening to classical, jazz, or even country stations to avoid hearing songs that I love butchered from the poor handling by that station.
BTW - The station that changed formats played records right up until the day it changed formats, and it was the best classic rock station that I've ever heard. It surpassed WGRX before it was castrated and turned into "The Bay" or whatever it's called now. Yeah, some of the albums were a little worn, but they still sounded better than the garbage I have to listen to now. I guess I'll have to buy some sort of CD based MP3 player for my car even though I don't really care for MP3s, but they're better than what I have to listen to now.
Chad and Tech833 - Because you're in the business, Is there anything I can say in an email or letter to the station to get them to stop over processing the music and bring back some dynamic range? |
Airplane1
Advanced Member
Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 718
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 7:24 pm: |
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I guess tube radios wont work when everything goes digital.no more great sounding radio. |
Chad
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Username: Chad
Post Number: 719
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 7:57 pm: |
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Probably not, if you are not into music the brain perceives louder as better and you will stop a radio that is scanning on a louder station. It has been proven time and time again. Broadcast is the reason I pay for XM radio, still over processed and rough sounding but the content is MUCH more genre specific.
Do you have any public funded radio in your area? We have 3 here and have some awesome music sets, the audio quality is not as compressed because they don't have to compete with advertisers. Yes it's a little more amateur than flash-and-bang radio, but hey, if you are reading this then I guess you are into amateur radio. When I went contract, out from under the corporate thumb, and went to the University I was financially challenged at first due to a divorce and new bills. Instead of pledging money to my local community funded radio station I pledged... TIME. I worked on their processing, repaired their rickety console, gave them old gear that I had and was too lazy to sell for a small profit. It was one of the best feelings of giving I have ever had.
Yeah you have to look at a schedule, yeah they play sets you will hate but I certainly learned about different music I otherwise would not have.
Mastering engineers hate it too; I was talking with 2 other studio engineers just this afternoon. But the conversation always ends with "what ever pays the bills."
So a letter probably won't do anything. The world needs widespread music education, our quest for music now, force-fed, free, downloaded, and having multimedia in every aspect in life has led to this. I work with world renown classical and jazz musicians. I go to concerts, unamplified, to set my mind straight as to what is right, everyone should take a measly 2 hours out of their life to do this, it's good for the soul.
Although I'm not a very religious person... I can remember a day when people went to church to congregate and listen to a great lecture, possibly learn something. It was quiet, peaceful, and confidence inspiring. Have you seen some of these rigs in churches now? Multiple projection screens, sound systems that will do amazing levels, intelligent stage lighting, yadda, yadda. I put these in to, but wonder, do people really need this much stimulation on a Sunday morning? They should have just come to see my band last night instead
This is thing that leads to the quest for more from the average Joe. I just give them what they want whether I believe in it or not
Chad |
Tech833
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Username: Tech833
Post Number: 1259
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 10:24 pm: |
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HP445: The only thing you can do is complain to the program director. I am about 99.9% sure it won't help, but it is as close as you can get. Second best bet is complain to the sales manager. As a listener, they DO care about you, maybe even more than the program director sometimes.
AP: I still have tube radios, and they do sound a bit better. If all else fails, I put some old radio shows in the MP3 player hooked to the SSTran and broadcast the old shows myself and tune them in on the old radios. Positively dreamy!
Chad: For what it's worth, my church does not have a single mic, amp, or speaker. Pure analog. Very rare these days, you actually have to listen a bit. |
Beantown
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Username: Beantown
Post Number: 68
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 10:11 am: |
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I have to say that this is one informative topic! I now understand why Auqualung on my Pioneer turntable, gong through an old Marantz 2230 sounds better than on my Sony home audio surround sound system with Bose 5.1 speakers from a CD. I can now hear the diffeence BIG time. Is it safe to say that there IS a Big difference between an Audio sytem versus a home Theater setup. What the heck happened to true High fidelity audio? And your right about the Classic and Country station sounding better. They do to me anyway. And now I understand why. Try a station that plays old Blues music and I mean the old stuff. Man is that an eye opener (or is that ear opener) compared to Digital. Thanks for the learning session, light now dawns on this marble (blonde?) head!
CEF260 |
Chad
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Username: Chad
Post Number: 722
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 11:46 am: |
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One Word...... BOSE. Try your other speakers on your sony receiver and see what you come up with
The Bose speakers sound great at first for people wo don't critique music but they are missing MANY very important parts of the AF spectrum. The sub crossover is too high and the acoustimass module is easy to locate. It is also bandpass which compounds the problem by giving you "one note bass" The drivers in the cubes will only effectively play down to 3-400Hz in that arrangement, they are FAR from a true line source for coupling. HF response falls dramatically at 10KHz.
People buy them because they are Wife Friendly and Bose has great marketing. There are small sub/sat combo's that utilize 5-6" woofers and high end tweeters, these are added to a true subwoofer. They are only a bit larger and sound great. If interested I have plans that allow you to build a DIY HT system that will rival rigs costing thousands of dollars. If you can solder and wood work it's the only way to go IMHO
Chad |
Hollowpoint445
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Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1131
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 9:16 pm: |
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Could I adapt those plans work well in a 2 channel application? I've got a really nice analog receiver but I'm too cheap to buy speakers that are worthy of it. I always thought about doing that myself, but making the crossovers always intimidated me.
I've always liked how Bose speakers sound, but I'm not an audio professional. |
Chad
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Username: Chad
Post Number: 723
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 7:16 pm: |
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Absolutely! In fact i just found out some of the drivers Ilike are on sale... BIG TIME! Crossover design is not bad with great drivers. I'll have more info soon, getting ready to head out. One driver on sale is an 8" that will just hammer, easy to run without a sub for casual music listening, HT will want a sub. I recently did a car install with high end home drivers and it's way cool! I saved MUCHO Dinero!
Chad |
