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Tech808
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Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Hotwire
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Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 8:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I notice that my stock mic seems to have louder audio than my Astatic 636L. Is this normal? Do all noise canceling mics have less audio than a stock mic? I'm a soft talker and I have to raise my voice to get the same reading on the meter when using the Astatic.

What does everyone think about the new Wilson mics I been hearing about? Somebody told me about the amplified Wilson mic that uses the radios electricity to power it. Sounds really cool to me.
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Mikefromms
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Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 7:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You've got to at least give the Superstar DM-452 a try. It has drastically improved every radio I've heard it used on . It is the Imax 2000 of power-echoe mics.

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Hotwire
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Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok I'll give one a try.
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Racer_x
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Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How far away are you holding the mic? Noise cancelling mics are meant to be very close to your lips when used - that's why most of them come with a lip guard.

Personally I like stock mics and only use them when mobile. Power mics are a waste of money unless you want a voice responce other than the stock mic's dynamic element.

I hear folks saying that stock mics don't sound good, but in my experience the stock microphone sounds very good if used properly. Most of them don't speak into them closely enough for the element to sound good. Dynamic elements aren't as sensitive as crystal, ceramic, or electret elements, that's why noise cancelling mics have dynamic elements. Because of that you need to speak close to the element to get the best responce possible.
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Road_warrior
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Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 1:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Radios and mics are all made somewhat
different even if there the same model.
The parts used can vary in performance.
I heard brand new radios sound awful
with there factory stock mic, but, sound
great with another brand of stock mic.
I personally like the sound of the DM-452
on all my radios.

JIM/ PA/ CEF 375
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Hotwire
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Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 8:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I always held the lip gaurd touching my lip. Its just that I like to talk in my normal voice and not yell. If I talk a little louder then all is ok. I just like how sensitive the stock mic is.
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Racer_x
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Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hotwire - If you're right up to the mic that's all you can do without opening the mic and changing the breath blast filter - which might help. I don't like to yell either, but I grew up in a loud family so I have a fairly loud speaking voice anyway. I always try to speak a little softer than normal and hold the mic nice and close so it sounds good and relaxed.

Road Warrior - This myth that certain mics work best with certain radios is silly. The circuitry of new radios are all made for low impedance mics and generally have similar audio bandwidths. It's the person's voice that is the variable. Different kinds of mic elements have different responces so using a different mic is a type of equalization by mic selection. THAT can definitely make a difference. But it's not an issue with certain mics working with certain radios. Someone with a voice that is full spectrum can use any type of microphone and sound good.
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Vtwinn
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Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 1:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I Like my 636 it doesnt pick up all the back ground noise in my truck and has a good deep sound . You have to hold it very close to you mouth when talking so you can cancel out everything but you voice . Stock mics for me make my voice sound to tiny . I think whatever mic makes your voice sound good you should go with .
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Road_warrior
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Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 2:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hotwire,

Just use whatever Mic sounds best and makes
you happy. Thats all that counts. I
personally don't care for noise canceling
mics. I would use a stock mic before using
one of those. But, we all have our own
opinions and thats what makes the world
go-round...LOL

JIM/ PA/ CEF 375
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Vanillagorilla
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Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 4:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


I don't have one but every RK56 I've ever heard sounds great...if you want to have a noise cancelling mic. The Astatic 636 is WAY too noise cancelling for me...maybe just my voice but it sounds like I have a towel over the mic!
As for a great power mic the DM452 can't be beat for the money and if you have a deep voice and don't want echo then try the D104M6. Sounds like a loud stock mic but does pickup backround noise depending on how high its set....I run one from time to time set on "3" max...plenty of modulation without having that super crunchy power mic sound.

Hank '905 CEF559

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