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Wolverine
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Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 6:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I need to find out if any forum members have any information about these radios, and a release date. The only thing I know so far, is that this radio is a dual final, hi- powered to 50 watts pep. It also has a big round galaxy size meter, I believe that it is a 10 meter radio that can be modified for 11 meters. I wonder how this radio will stack up against the new cobra 10 meter radios coming out. My 2nd question, is why don't the non-export CB radios use dual finals, what's up with that?. Would it have something to do with reliability?. Why do exports get to have dual finals?. Anyone who can shed some light on this subject, feel free to do so. Thanks in advance.
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Tech808
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Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 9:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wolverine,

This is all I have so far.

Stryker SR-440HP 10 Meter Amateur Radio


Introducing the Stryker SR-440HP 10 Meter Amateur Radio.

The new Stryker SR-440 is a next generation 10 Meter Amateur Radio that was built entirely with the operator in mind. We've loaded the radio with real world, common sense features that make using the radio a blast. Highlighted below are some of the more important features that the SR-440 offers.

Important Features Include:

High Power Dual Finals - The SR-440 uses two 2SC1969 final transistors providing the user with 50 + watts PEP. If you want be heard, the SR-440 has the power required to do some serious talking.

Digital Echo with/ Dual Front Mounted Controls - Provides the operator a much wider range of effects and control than typical factory or aftermarket echo boards. Our board is able to reproduce the human voice with virtually no distortion providing maximum clarity and enjoyment.

Two Different Roger Beeps - Two different roger beeps are included with the SR-440HP. These are controlled using a switched that is located on the front panel. This is a feature that you will find on virtually no other radio direct from the factory. Most importantly the roger beep can be turned off when it's not needed.

Variable Power Control – Allows the operator to adjust or vary their carrier from one watt to over 50 watts PEP. This is a must have feature if the operator intends to use an external power device.
Variable Talk Back Control – The infamous talk back squeal is virtually eliminated with our independently controlled talk back circuitry. The operator can adjust the volume to the perfect level as operating conditions require. Best of all the user no longer has to turn down the microphone gain to stop the annoying squeal that is often the result of poor design or cost cutting at the production level.

Up-Armored™ Receiver- Our exclusive receiver protection works even under the harshest conditions, such as those experienced at a busy truck stop with many operators running high power radios. In addition our receiver filtering is much tighter than most radios on the market. This means adjacent channel rejection is drastically improved.

Back Lighted Controls - Our exclusive face plate design provides operators with back lighted controls, making adjustments even in the darkest conditions easy. Best of all our design is extremely durable and can be dimmed using the dimmer switch located on the front panel of the radio.

Additional Features Include:

Blue meter light and channel display
Large round meter that is easy to read
Advanced NB/ANL Circuit Reduces Interference
AM/FM Operation and PA Circuitry
Automatic AWI (Antenna Warning Indicator) alerts the operator if their SWR's are too high
Three Position dimmer switch on front panel
Front microphone connector for easy mounting in tight spaces
Receive and Microphone gain controls
Frequency Counter Jack pre-wired for FC-390 style counters
1 Year Limited Factory Warranty
*********************************************

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Wolverine
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Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 9:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, great picture Tech 808. Does Copper plan to carry them in the future, along with the new cobra 10 meter radios? One other thing, why do 10 meter exports get dual finals, and regular CB's don't -Is it a HAM thing?. Why, why why??. Thanks again.
Wolverine.
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Tech808
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Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wolverine,

CB Radio's are manufactured and governed by FCC Rules and designed to meet the Guidelines set forth under FCC Part 95 and are limited to the 4/12 on power under those rules.

Export radios are 10 & 12-meter radios with far more features, ie: Dual Final's = More Power and many other feature's that you will not find on CB radio's.

As for Copper Electronics’ handling the Stryker Radio's that decision would be up to the Forummaster and other Owner's of Copper Electronics to decide if there is enough of a demand for them.

As with all Radio's or Radio related equipment there need's to be a demand for them.


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Vanillagorilla
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Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 2:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Looks like a feature packed rig...WITHOUT SSB!?
I suppose there may be a sideband version later~
I can't wait to hear more on price. :-)

Hank '905
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Tech808
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Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 5:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vanillagorilla,

I wonder if they would be interested in sending one to Copper for a Review?

Then Copper could post both the Magnum S-6 Review and the Stryker SR-440HP Review.

Magnum S-6 10 Meter Mobile Radio

FEATURES:

45 Watt, AM/FM/PA 10 Meter Mobile Amateur Transceiver

Blue LED Channel and Frequency Counter Displays

Large Round Meter with Blue(RX) and Red(TX) Backlight

Variable Dimmer - Controls All Front Panel Lighting

Double-Barrel™ Microphone Jacks - Another Magnum Exclusive!

The S-6 Features TWO 4-Pin Microphone Jacks - In Parallel!

One on the Front Panel and the other on the Right Side

Run Two Different Microphones, or Give a Mic to Your Co-Pilot!

Variable Power Output Control - Operates in ALL Modes

TURBO™ Digital Echo with Dual Controls

AMT - All Mode Talkback with Volume Control on Front Panel

TOP GUN™ Modulator - A Magnum Exclusive!

Turns the S-6's transmitter section into a modulator

With 1 watt carrier - swing to 45 watts!

100% modulation for unbelievable power

Modulator On/Off Control on Front Panel

TOP GUN™ Compressor - A Magnum Exclusive!

Compressor Improves Transmitted Audio

Helps Punch Through Crowded Airwaves

Front Panel Band Switch

High SWR Warning Light with On/Off Control

Roger Beep with On/Off Control

+10kHz Switch

Microphone and RF Gain

Noise Blanker / ANL

FREE Limited Edition 'Old Glory' Extra Front Panel

FREE Schematic and Parts Layout Diagrams

1 Year Warranty

Lon
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Vanillagorilla
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Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 7:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


You know..they look a lot alike..'sept no freq counter on the Stryker..
Am I seeing it correctly? Does the stryker have the mic pins labeled? Hmmmm weird?
Anyone have a clue as to who is making them? Is it an idependant company? Wonder if it shares a board with anything familiar?

Hank '905
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Wolverine
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Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2005 - 2:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the answers Tech 808. I guess the only thing that dual finals are good for, is swinging more imput power into amplifiers, to get more output wattage out of amplifiers. My low drive Unidens can't hold up a candle to the exports in that respect. This is going to be one heck of a export shoot-out with these new contenders on the block.
Wolverine.
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Vanillagorilla
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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 4:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lon said: *The S-6 Features TWO 4-Pin Microphone Jacks - In Parallel!

One on the Front Panel and the other on the Right Side ***

Why might you need something like that? Two different mics? One power mic and one stocker for local? Hmmmmm interesting feature....
I talk on a DM-452 but plug in the D-104 Lollipop for shooting skip...always seems to get out a little better...yup..interesting..

Hank~'905
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Tech808
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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 7:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vanillagorilla,

Dual Mic jacks are very handy for OTR Driver's who drive as a Team then 2 different microphones can be connected.

Sure saves a Lot of passing the Mic Back and forth.

Or it will allow you to have 1 mic connected for driving and another mic connected with a 8 or 10' cord for when you are waiting to be unloaded and in the sleeper watching TV or on the Computer then you do not have to jump up and grab the mic to talk.

And a VERY EASY way to check out Different Microphones without telling someone heyyyyyyy hold on for a minute while I change mic's so you can tell me which one sounds best.

Or with someone like CEF #113/ Wrongway that man can rip the cord out of a mic instantly and Always needs a backup. Or like on the Sunday CEF Net's the 1st Sargant has her Mic that she likes to use and I have mine that I use.

Actually it would be Nice if every radio Base or Mobile came with twin Mic Jacks.

Lon
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Patzerozero
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Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 6:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

actually, wolverine, uniden/cobra chassis radios are known for their LOUD CLEAN audio, & the majority of the 'pro' keydown players use cobra 29/76/78 or 148/xl's. a well modded 29 or 148 & a 2x2290 amp sounds a whole bunch NICER then a 95t. & that is the setup the keydown guys would use to drive THEIR custom 6 & 8 pill amps. NEVER would they use a 95t or any equivalent built-in amp type radio. the high powered radios are built for people who just 'need a little bit more'. problem is that little bit is never enough & they add the wrong amp &.........
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Yankee
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Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 5:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

With that said about Uniden, I can say no more about my Grant XL and why I chose to run it oven an export radio. Would be nice to have 2 microphone inputs in my case I could have the Silver Eagle and a TUG-8 stand with the 10-DA head on at all times, without a doubt I can rig up a dual input to run both microphones, even still, at times I would want to run the 10-DA head on the TUP-9 stand (silver Eagle stand), because the TUP-9 outputs a higher pitched level of audio than the TUG-8 stand. Also the 2 microphone ampilifiers sound somewhat different on the air, on the same radio.
Carl CEF-357
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Patzerozero
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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 1:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that's why my XL is still in my skiptalking mobile, yankee! the day it can no longer be repaired is when the S9 goes in permanently. and not before. unless i go 2 mobiles, 1 small & 1 BIG...
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Wolverine
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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 5:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Patzerozero, do you think anyone in the keydown circuits would use a Stryker radio with all of it's loaded features in a keydown?. And do you think, that even with the loud audio that the cobra and unidens are known for and have, do they even stand a chance against this new Stryker radio(Audio-wise)? Just hazard a guess. You seem to be well informed about the audio qualities of both CB and Export radios in competitions, and I wonder which radio (If you're a betting man) would you pull up to the line with?. Thanks.
Wolverine.
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Wolverine
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Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 4:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No contact Patzerozero. Wolverine around Northern California, is back on the side, reading the mail.
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Patzerozero
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Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2005 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sorry! busy!
hard to say without seeing one. have been reading about the 1 posted here & the SSB version elsewhere, but just like the new cobras, til they're out for a while, who knows? my guess would be NO. galaxy's have the ability to get some fairly LOUD audio out of 'em, yet the big players stick with the uniden types. the galaxy's SIGNAL is THINNER. (kind of a torque vs horsepower thing) that's why you can hear less watts coming thru underneath more watts at times.
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Patzerozero
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they also NARROWBAND the radios. they'll get everything into 1/3 of the 40 channels, & bring 3 radios, 1 hi 1 mid 1 lo & use whichever is closest to the channel that they key on for the day. the 'no forward swing' idea is as debatable as the 'swing' idea. you know, 'swing is king but dead key rules'. & there are plenty who believe in each side. therefore, it probably DOES NOT make a difference. skip talking radios & keydown radios are set up differently. i've seen my share of keydowns, but prefer the real world of long distance/dx talking. i want the equipt to work the next time i use it, not have to fix 3 radios, 5 amps & a wattmeter every weekend just to prove i'm the loudest @ 500'!
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Wolverine
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Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 5:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From what I read from other forums, the stryker radios will be available near the end of August. This radio is designed to be as sturdy as the Uniden radios as far the abuse that truckers can put them through, like vibrations, pot holes, etc, and also have the bells and whistles that the exports have, like 2 types of roger beeps, variable, dual finals, and a working "Talkback" that won't squeal when your mike is on, or to close. This radio may have the edge on the new Unidens coming out. The best part, is that the stryker radio can go from 1 watt, to 50 watts pep. I can't wait for a full test.
Wolverine.
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Wolverine
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Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 8:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Patzerozero, I just had to comment on that Narrowband concept you were talking about. One thing about I've learned about keydowns, besides the fact that Cobras and Unidens are the radio of choice, is that some of the contestants are caught cheating. Some of the tactics used are using a pill or two, in the keydown radios that they are using, other tricks are routing the coax coming in from the antenna, into a dummy amp box, so as to make the judges think that that is the amp box being used. Other tactics are volting, when it is prohibited by using a rheostat type power dimmer switch, or hidden dial a volt knob to increase voltage. I've even heard of contestants using a friend with a mobile with a repeater inside of it, parked near where the "Watergate" is being taped. Watergate in this application meaning "The Loudest audio coming in, being taped by the judges". With a lot of money, fame, trophies, reputations, etc. being on the line, the cheaters are becoming more sophisticated in fradulent practices, for the bragging rights, and the winning amp being the one to buy (Amp builders are grinning). Now you enlighten to this concept called Narrowbanding the radios. Is that legal? I guess it couldn't hurt. Fascinating hobby. Shame, Shame, Shame.
Wolverine.
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Patzerozero
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Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 9:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the ones i have seen do allow narrowbanding, & in most cases the subject isn't even part of the ground rules, which you touch upon. i've seen MANY a vehicle stripped down & have the coax re-routed & covers removed from radios, amps & EVEN wattmeters in search of illegal mods-the MAIN ILLEGAL mod being the sneaking in of extra transistors. i've mentioned on other topics on this forum JUST HOW SERIOUSLY SOME OF THESE GUYS TAKE THEIR REPUTATIONS. if you go thru davemade website links, there is a gent in NJ with a website that is so full of bravado & bragging about his station & what he will do to those who attempt to better him....YES, loss of bragging rights, the feeling of being cheated, even talking when the 'big boys' aren't present to compete against & then bragging about how well one got out has led to not only fisticuffs, but actual shootings & stabbings. great world we live in, huh? just because of 'whose radio is strongest'.
just show me some DX & i'm happy
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Wolverine
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Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 5:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep.
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Strykertech
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Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Glad to see Interest in are radios.
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Wolverine
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Strykertech, maybe after reading this thread, you can answer some of the questions posted about this new mysterious radio that is the talk of the town, especially when it is compared to Uniden radio's apparent audio quality and loudness on the AM channels. The radio does kind of look like a clone of the S-9 radio.
Wolverine.
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Strykertech
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Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2005 - 8:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No Clone of a Magnum radio. Uses same chassis yes. It has a different receiver circuit and a few other differences.
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Wolverine
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Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2005 - 9:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I don't know what kind of audio boards you'll be using, but if they can come close to the loudness of Uniden type boards, like the Grant XL/LT, PC 68 and 78 series, you will have a successful product. Hopefully, you will have solved the problem of low level modulation on AM channels that 10 meter exports are notorious for, since they are broadbanded and power/audio is spread for 200 + channels, as opposed to power/audio being spread on only 40 channels of normal cb radios. Good luck.
Wolverine.
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Strykertech
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Stryker is working on a final setup that will not be using the 1969's but a single final that is capable of 50 watts pep. We are waiting on some prototypes then we will know more.
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Wolverine
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Just playing the "Devil's advocate" for a second, but at most breaks, keydowns, jamboree's etc, the ONLY export radios recommended to key are the 6 band radios like the Galaxy 55v or the Galaxy 33. The 8 and 12 band radios for broadbanding reasons I guess, are shunned, in favor of the Unidens/Cobras. Is this new radio that you're producing a 6, 8, or 12 band radio??
Wolverine.
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Wolverine
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How about it, Strykertech, got your ears on?, we're paging you, breaker?.
Wolverine.
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Dale
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tech808 pics looks like 8 band
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Strykertech
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8 bands. These radios will be designed to talk on. We have no interest in the keydown scene.
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Strykertech:
I have to second the question from Hollowpoint445 - "what is special about your 'Up Armored Receiver', and what kind of channel rejection numbers...?"
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Strykertech
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Channel Rejection Numbers are still in the works. Soon as prototypes are squared away we should have accuruate ones.
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Patzerozero
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'8 bands. These radios will be designed to talk on. We have no interest in the keydown scene.'-ooooohhhh! i like that! keydowns are cool to watch, but like i said, i wanna talk dx, not fix my equipt every weekend!
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Rover
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Question: WHY are there "bands" for a *10 Meter* radio? Why can't the radio cover ONE band with ONE set of "bands"?
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Wolverine
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Okay, so you're not into keydowns, fair enough. Let me rephrase the question. Will this new AM export address the issue of "Low level modulation" problems associated with export radios when xmitting on AM channels?. Will this new radio have a real variable as opposed to the hi/low switches on radios like the General Lee export radio? Some may want to operate an external amp with this radio. Like Hollowpoint 445 stated in the above post, how can you improve the receiver quality in this new radio to compete with the cobra/uniden with the up-armored technology? The cobra/uniden audio boards are 2nd to none in the industry when it comes to loud, punchy audio, and if you can improve or at least match the audio quality of these boards, you will have a superb product.
Wolverine.
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Bigbob
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Rover because it is modifiable to get 8 40 channel bands including fcc-cb band.Bigbob
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Rover
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My point exactly!
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Dale
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low level modulation am radios were
designed for ssb its not a 10 meter radio
thing.the only real loud am radios are the galaxy
radios am only.low level modulation in 10m radios
isnt bad its great escpailly when using ssb.
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Yankee
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This thread keeps getting deeper and deeper. If it looks like another radio and has the same mother board as another radio then it must be a clone of that other radio. It's still only AM and FM, how about the percentage of people that want an outstanding radio for sideband. Now if one of these companies would come out with a radio the likes of the Stoner and make it all mode, then they would have something to crow about. Stop using other people's design and think of a good all mode radio.
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Strykertech
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Well you just can't reinvent the wheel. These are not low level modulation radios. From what I know ssb radio sales keep getting lower and lower. The cost to design and have a new all mode radio built would cost as much as a HF Rig if not more.

CBer's are not willing to pay.

Nor would most know how to operate a sophisticated rig.

President Lincoln's were discontinued last year because of very slow sales. Uniden dropped the Grant LT years back cause of very slow sales. Stryker SR-440HP AM/FM rig that is built for the everyday cber such as a truckdriver etc.
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Yankee
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Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 9:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh well!! can't say I didn't try. In that case a Cobra 29 would fit the bill. I don't really think that is the reason that Uniden stopped making sideband radios, I feel that the rise of sales in the export radio market had a lot to do with the decline of Uniden's sales in both the Lincoln and legal 40 channel sideband radios. Yes, the everyday CB radio usage is AM. But a good percentage of the people enjoying our hobby own and know how to operate sophisticated rigs as termed. Many of us have been on the air for several decades and enjoy our hobby, also many have taken the extra effort to study and earn an amateur radio license.
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Patzerozero
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Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

without reading thru all the posts & searching the web, can i then assume stryker has NO INTENTION of building an SSB radio? 75% of my base use IS SSB, & 75% mobile use is AM. i WILL NOT buy a radio without SSB capabilities. no matter how GREAT of an AM performer it may be. if the product is right, cost is just a small obstacle. i paid $600 for an AR3500 17 or so years ago. THISCLOSE to the best 'CB' ever built.
in my opinion. the sr440hp could just BE the BEST AM 'cb' ever, but i won't buy one. sorry. i have enough SSB radios to keep me going for a hundred more years! that's just in grant xl/lt/148/tr296, not including several SSB magnums, ar3500 & a few hf rigs. & the e-auctions have an unlimited supply of the classic cb's as well as hf rigs.
in defense of you guys, galaxy radios, & each & every 'cb' available from $19.99 & up, your last sentence hit the nail right on the head & is 100% correct!!! there probably a LOT more of THAT type of user then the 1 who wants 'perfection'. i'll just keep tweakin' $50 auction grants & make 'em scream!
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Strykertech
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Yes Stryker has plans of building a SSB radio possibly more than one down the road. But attacking products is no what I am here to argue about. I cannot go into every detail on how things work here on the forum. But their is alot to building a radio. For one their is a limited supply on transistors for 27mhz. But we plan to do alot of different things in the next year or 2. It's going to take some time. There is no way to build one radio to please everyone. I think the people before us learned that a longtime ago.
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Bigbob
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Hey,everybody just as the magnum top gun modulator is trade marked,so is the up-armored receiver,Strykertech can't divulge trade secrets.Bigbob
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Patzerozero
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Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok strykertech, even though my signature to the left APPEARS to attack galaxy, it just means I will not own 1. nor did i attack your radio. i just said it isn't for me. now, an SSB radio could quite possibly be a different story. as with these new cobra 10m/exports-what happened to them? i know only the AM/FM is out, but after the 1st flurry of activity, haven't heard anything. nor have i heard 1 on the air yet. i am awaiting the SSB release to see what happens with that.
just as i felt the AR3500 was 'the king' for 15+ years, & i feel the S9 has taken or at least shares the crown-not that they can even be compared, they are QUITE different, i would WELCOME a NEW close-to-perfect-as-possible radio, and if it is a STRYKER SSB-THEN SO BE IT! BRING IT ON! i ain't goin' nowhere. If it turns out that good, 1 WILL find its way into my shack.
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Dale
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i think its a shame all these new radios coming out and no ssb.they say the expense well i say
take out all those bells and whistles and add
ssb.you could sell add on echo boards and others
just like cb shops for the sbb radios.the ONLY
time i run am is on sundays for the neti just think a good ssb rig with no toys in it would sell great just look at the ranger 2950/2970
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Patzerozero
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Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 2:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if we go back to the archives, earlier this year if i remember correctly, we posted 'what we'd want in a new magnum radio' & directed it to sam lewis. well, actually it could be directed anywhere, cobra, stryker, etc. if someone wouldn't mind searching for those posts & either reposting them entirely, or just where to find 'em, we could all (stryker included) & see what should be realistically added. i think what we basically wanted was a good talking AM & SSB radio with builtin compressor, variable, etc(MUCH LIKE THE CURRENT TOPGUN MAGNUMS) but either MORE OR LESS output, so it could stand on its own or accept an amp better. receiver is what we were looking to improve. selectivity, sensitivity, no need for channel guard or 2sc2999 upgrades, AGC, upgradeed SSB detector, etc etc.
there is NO NEED for another INEXPENSIVE radio. there are plenty of 'cheap' AM's out there. (cheap being a relative word here). another AM/SSB in the $300 range is only neccessary if it IS DIFFERENT & with some of these 'upgrades' built in. if these upgrades can't be added & keep the price around $300, how much more could they possibly add??? many of us here add 'em, wouldn't we rather KNOW THEY ARE ALREADY IN THE RADIO WHEN WE BUY IT & THE COST WOULD SURELY BE LESS THEN PURCHASING THEM SEPARATELY.(come on, a 2sc2999 i've seen range from 25 cents to a couple bucks, how much could that possibly have added to the cost of a new XL???)& yes leave out the bells & whistles-roger beeps, echoes, talkbacks. obviously adding blue leds & lighting & a 2nd mic connector doesn't add much to an already available design(omega force, even 257).

this is partly a reason new galaxy, connex, general, superstar, etc type radios don't excite me. they are NOT new, just more rehashed trash.
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Hotwire
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Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 4:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Too bad SSB radios are not made as many as before. My opinion is this, What keeps a CB radio manufacture in business? Truck Drivers. What do truck drivers use? The AM mode. Guys like me who want SSB might make 1% of the consumers out here.
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Yankee
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Pat: Very well presented, I for one completely agree with your post. The people who use sideband don't want or need all the trash that's been added to export radios to raise the purchase price, so it's not within affordable range of those of us who rarely use AM.
Yes, the general public that today buy an export radio. Buy it because of all the unnessary add ons such as echo, roger beeps and voice changers.
FM is not a needed mode on a radio intended for 11 meter use. What is really needed in a new radio on the market, is as you have said. A good updated mother board the likes of the Cobra 2000 GTL, original Cobra 148GTL and the Uniden Grant XL and LT. Variable power up to say 50 watts so it can be run with or without an amplifier. Also needed is the 5 and 10 KHz. up and down, a clarifier range with no more than 7 KHz. either side of center frequency, and for sure not a dual clarifier. Except for the variable power of 50 watts and 5 KHz. up,
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Strykertech
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Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The main differences regarding the receiver are; we've improved the AGC (it functions more effectively) and changed the signal levels before and after receiver filtering. These changes make more efficient use of the existing circuitry.
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Strykertech
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Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A 2sc2999 is not a upgrade all it does is bring in more noise.
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Alsworld
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Without going back and rereading this entire post, I'm going to take a stab here and say that in my opinion, I'm glad to see another radio being manufactured.

For us the CB radio enthusiast, it spells "choices". With so many manufactures scaling down or out of the CB radio business, it's nice to see someone turning that around.

I have little knowledge of this Styker radio, but my curiosity has my ear to the wind.

Yes, I am a SSB fan myself, but if a radio is manufactured properly, with good quality and features, they will sell. And if they sell well and it becomes profitable, newer models will come along to to compete with those already on the street. With that said, maybe someday we will see an SSB version. For now, every company has to start somewhere.....

For me, I welcome the Stryker radio line (blindly of course) and hope you will manufacture a quality product. If so, I wish you the best of luck. I am anxious to see this new radio.

Just my .02 cents. Sorry, I was just too tired to read the entire post above, so if my answer does not jive with what has been posted here already, take two aspirin and call me in the morning.

Alsworld

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Strykertech
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Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank You Alsworld. You are right.
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Pointman
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I prefer to purchase radios with SSB as do many others but when I am traveling with the family in my minivan it is my Uniden 78 Elite that I have set up not my Omega Force or even my Grants XT and LT's. Why? simplicity, nice traveling features size, ease of use and performance. (the LT is sweet but I don't want it stolen.)
Of the folks that live in and around the area that I live and the few friends I have locally that like to run radios, none of them use SSB, they are all AM talkers and could care less about this feature.
There is always a market for a great AM talker with good features and if the radio walks the dog on AM AND has a great receiver and is well built it will sell.
I am waiting to see how these radios do, my tech is patiently waiting to start testing and using them also and will tell me what he thinks.
If these radios are what Stryker says they are not only will they sell and sell big but they will force the competition to improve their radios also and this is good for everyone.
I am going to probably wait for the SSB unit but if I decide to pull the trigger on a AM rig in the next 6 months the Stryker 440 is on my very very short list of radios I will consider buying. If they are as good as they sound like they are going to be it will be the only radio on my list.

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Yankee
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Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 2:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The statement about the 2SC-2999 bringing in more static is not correct with all radios. Must be it depends on which radio you're doing the mod. on. It sure makes a difference on the top end Uniden sideband radios. It's possible it would bring up the static level on a radio of lesser quality and a radio that has noisey receive to start with.
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Strykertech
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Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 4:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yankee,

Only way to improve the receivers in the Grant XL/LT to any degree is to change to a Mosfet or GaSFet. Then you have done something.
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Patzerozero
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Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 5:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

alsworld, my MAIN POINT is-NEW RADIO NEW RADIO NEW RADIO-you, me & the whole radio world does NOT NEED another rebadged galaxy, connex, general, superstar, rci, magnum, northpoint, etc etc etc. I WELCOME & DESIRE A NEW RADIO WITH MORE USEFUL FEATURES, whether it be receive or transmit(xmit as was the case with magnum), & if stryker is going to use magnums' xmit 'system', i have no problem with that, i just feel the xmit that needs to be done is either MORE or LESS watts then the S9-type so it matches better with amps, bigger or smaller. RECEIVE is what needs to be improved!
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Tech808
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Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 7:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HEYYYYYYYYYYYY Everyone I have a GREAT idea!

Why not wait until they are in production and released to find out what they can and cannot do.

Then you will be able to make a choice as to if this radio will or will not fit your needs.

Hopefully Shawn will send one for a Review and then you will have the Actual Results and can compare them to other AM/FM radios on the market.

This Topic is Not about Magnum, Galaxy, Ranger, Old Cobra/Uniden Radios or Even the New Cobra radios any other radio other than the Stryker Line of Radios.

It is a Radio coming on the market and lets ALL give it a chance and see how it performs!

We are talking about the Stryker AM/FM Radio ONLY not SSB Radios.

If or When Stryker comes out with a SSB Radio, I am sure they will let everyone know about it.

From Alsworlds post above:

For us the CB radio enthusiast, it spells "choices". With so many manufactures scaling down or out of the CB radio business, it's nice to see someone turning that around.

It is just another CHOICE for those of us interested in the Radio Hobby and AM/FM Only Radios.

If you do not want or use an AM/FM Radio that is Your Choice.

Iam personally am very interested in ANY PRODUCT coming on the Market from ANYONE.

If you want to talk about OLD Cobra or Uniden radios or SSB radios then Please start a Topic for it.

Lets please try to stay on the Topic here and the TOPIC is:

Stryker CB Radios or actually Stryker 10 Meter Radios.


Thanks,

Lon
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Strykerz
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Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 7:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Amen Tech808, Amen......
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Tech808
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Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is the Latest Information that I received today from Shawn at Stryker Radios on the Stryker SR-440HP 10 Meter Radio!

* High Power 50+ watts PEP output on AM

* 8 Bands of Operation (A - H)

* Digital Echo with Dual Front Mounted Controls

* Up-Armored™ Receiver filtering reduces noise

* Back Lighted Controls w/3 stage dimmer

* 1 Year Limited Factory Warranty

* Front microphone connector for easy mounting

* Variable Power Control

* Variable Talk Back Control

* Two Selectable Roger Beeps

* AM/FM Operation and PA Circuity

* Frequency Counter Jack pre-wired for FC-390 Counter

* Advanced NB/ANL Circuit Reduces Interference

Thank You Shawn, for the Information to share with the Copper Forum Members.

Lon
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Wolverine
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Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 6:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great. Now all we need is a price, and a release date.
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Patzerozero
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Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 5:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

and a sideband version
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Bc910
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Posted on Friday, September 16, 2005 - 5:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll take the S6 any day over the stryker
just my 2 cents tho
BC
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Waterboy
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Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did anyone ever see one of them?? Are thay ever going to be marketed? or is it someones dream!?
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Tech808
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Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Waterboy,

The last I heard is they still are not on the market yet.

Read the Other Topic in this Area Titled:

Stryker CB Radios for more information.

Lon
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Waterboy
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Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 5:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can anyone tell me if this radio ever went into production?
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Hatchet
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Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 9:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Should be out by Thanksgiving
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Wolverine
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Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 3:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Right now, stryker is working in tandem with another electronics company in tweaking, power testing, the radio for pep watts, features, reliability etc. Stryker wants to do it right the first time out, when presenting thier radio to the public. I expect it to be out sometime in December. Maybe late November if they're confident in their product.
Wolverine.
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Outkast
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Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 4:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I see another company on the net here has them for sale already, wonder if copper will have them soon?

Outkast

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Strykertech
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Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 9:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are SR440HP is currently in production. No firm date set when they will be here in the US yet.
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Strykertech
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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 2:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Production is finished will be in the US later this month.

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