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Wildrat
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 9:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is there anything I can do to this switch to give it better isolation between positions. For example: When I have it in the Aux position which is my paint can dummy load I still get pretty good receive, and I have had people come to the freq I am tuning on when in the Aux position to see whats going on.

Mark
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Marconi
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wildrat, I'm afraid to tell you that I have seen the same thing and that is bad. If you will look at the SO-239's on the back of the meter you will also see that the metal inside where the coax tip goes is very thin. I have found these to be a problem of bad contact also with the modern day meters that Dosy makes.

The older meters were not as bad in this regard, but I don't recall ever using one of those with an antenna switch it is either. I'm not even sure they make a switching type meter 20-30 years ago.

I do not use my Dosy meters just for that reason alone. They will leak bad. Just my opinion.
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Wildrat
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 1:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got this one back in the early 80's. I have not looked at the 239's. I guess I will now, maybe find a better connector and replace them. I notice on the description of other switches that they say something along the line of being grounded or something when a certain position is not being used. I don't know. Maybe someone else will have an idea.

Mark
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Tech808
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 1:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wildrat,

You can REPLACE the SO-239 connectors on your Dosy Antenna Switch with the the SO-239 Conectors listed below.

SO-239 HOLE PNL

Hope this helps,

Lon
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Wildrat
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 5:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lon,
I looked at the connectors. Not to be to witty, but I dont understand how changing these connectors will help the problem. Are we trying for more shielding or something?

Mark
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Tech808
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 6:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wildrat,

Since you mentioned yours is from the 80's it would not hurt to replace the SO-239's as the centers do tend to wear out and get loose over the years.

Hope this helps,

Lon
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Wildrat
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 9:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

gotcha
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Marconi
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

But guys, even if you fix those connectors you still have that leaky orbital switch inside that all the RF has to go thru.

How far away was the station that hears you leaking past the dummy load?
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Wildrat
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 8:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

about 10-15 miles as the rat crawls. In rat miles that's about a thousand miles.
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Marconi
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If it had been on the next block, I would say forget it, but since it was 10-15 rat miles, let the rat have the thing and do without a meter and get you a good switch. It's only rat money.
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Wildrat
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 1:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Whats a good switch, I read in a review somewhere that this was suppose to be a decent one as compared to some of the others out there. I guess there ain't nothing good anymore. It's too bad you couldn't do something to this SW. to help it out. I have ordered the same SW. pat has from MFJ but it is back order. I don't know how good that SW. is either.

Mark
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Marconi
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 5:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just do not like that round switch they use in the Dosy, if just does not isolate signals going into it is what I have found. Their other meters, without antenna switching, are OK however.

I just think it is cheap. Dosy use to make meter that were so heavy that hooking RG8 coax was not a problem for them sitting straight on the station. But the modern versions are so lite that you almost have to use small coax jumpers.

That is when I saw the changes I referred to above. Maybe it was longer than 25 years ago. I didn't write it down. The meters still look great though.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 8:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alpha Delta switches are excellent. A friend got one because his old switch leaked so much that when he switched to his his dummy load, I still got an S-3 signal from him. He replaced that switch with an Alpha Delta and I can still hear him faintly, but my needle doesn't move at all.
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Wildrat
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 9:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Finally got my switch from MFJ, been on back order since before Christmas, now to figure it out.

Mark
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Wildrat
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pat are coming over to hook the switch up? IT's like yours MFJ-1700C

Mark
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wildrat,

Very easy to hook up and should take you less than 10 minutes to connect everything.

One side says ANTENNA and the other side say's TRANSMITTER.

Hook your Coax from your Antennas and Dummy Load to the Antenna side and hook the Jumpers from your radios to the TRANSMITTER side.

I even posted a picture of mine in the forum here and use different colored labels for each antenna and radio to make things easy.

And if all else fails always read the Instructions.

Lon
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Wildrat
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yea, I know it's easy. I was just looking for different configurations. I will have to look at your pics again. I downloaded them so I could, I don't remember seeing the switch, maybe because of the embossing gun stickers. I will go look now.

Mark
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Wildrat
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 2:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lon your switch is different than mine in configuration. My connectors are on four sides and I also two connectors marked common.

Mark
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 5:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wildrat,

The ONLY difference is the location of the connectors (SO-239's) on your MFJ-1700C compaired to my MFJ-1700B.

You still have TRANSMITTER Position Control Switch with 6 Positions A/B/C/D/E/F and ANTENNA Position Control Switch with 6 Positions A/B/C/D/E/F and 2 Common SO-239 Connectors.

You will run Jumper's/Coax from the MFJ-1700C COMMON SO-239 Conectors to the SO-239 Connectors marker IN & OUT on your WM-1 SWR/WATT Meter or other SWR/WATT Meter.

Hope this helps,

Lon
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Wildrat
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 5:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think I like the way the 1700b is laid out more than there new 1700c configuration. It makes the coax layout a lot better, and better looking.

Mark

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