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Wildrat
Advanced Member
Username: Wildrat
Post Number: 775
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 7:06 pm: | 
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I have my multiple ground rods what about also connecting my chain link fence to the tower ground also?
I noticed someone else here said they did this, so I am just wondering? |
Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1229
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 12:29 am: |
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Penelec our local electric power company uses
there fences/poles for extra grounding i noticed. |
Hotwire
Advanced Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 898
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 2:01 am: |
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That was me Wildrat. As far as I can tell it has caused no problems. SWR is flat, no static in my recieve much, my needle is on zero when all is silent, I get out GREAT and I put the hammer down on these locals! I also saved a load of cash on my car insurance by switching to Gieco. |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1176
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 3:03 am: |
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i dont know for sure, but years ago, while searching for a better antenna for my SW receiver, i found myself at the baseball park and thought that the batting cage would be the best thing since sliced bread.
well, it didnt work out that way. it performed worse than the 20' of wire i was using. much worse.
after returning home very disappointed; my dad explained to me that because of the galvanized coating on the fence, that it is not a good conductor of electricity.
i dont know anything about electric fences so i dont know if this is true or not.
just my experience here,
matt |
Marconi
Advanced Member
Username: Marconi
Post Number: 590
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 4:01 am: |
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Yea, I'm sure a 5' metal pole above ground with about 8" below ground, surrounded in a little concrete is really going to make a good ground. Think about it guys. |
Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1233
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 9:41 am: |
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All the poles and fence need to be grounded and
tied together with copper wire/strap.
There's articles on the web if you wish to
attempt grounding a fence.
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Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1234
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 9:48 am: |
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KID- Galvanized is not a good conductor, but,
the larger the size it will pass lightning energy.
Towers are galvanized coated. |
Wildrat
Advanced Member
Username: Wildrat
Post Number: 777
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 10:45 am: |
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I already have a pretty good ground system for my radio, tower, house, pool, etc.. I was not going to get elaborate, just take a piece of my leftover copper ground wire and just hook it to the fence. I was not going to rely on it as a true ground for anything. I understand what your saying Marconi, by the way are you any relation to Macaroni? |
Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1235
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 2:05 pm: |
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I think the whole idea of using fence/poles
is to further help spread the lightning
energy out over a larger area, so, less
chance of ground getting saturated with
energy. |
Chad
Advanced Member
Username: Chad
Post Number: 692
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 10:04 pm: |
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"I think the whole idea of using fence/poles
is to further help spread the lightning
energy out over a larger area, so, less
chance of ground getting saturated with
energy."
Although never proven or probably researched, it makes absolutely perfect sense if you have a lot of fence.
Chad
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Kid_vicious
Senior Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1183
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 12:16 am: |
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road warrior, dont you scrape off the zinc coating on the tower where you connect the ground wires?
wildrat, i may be missing some subtle sarcasm here, but marconi is the last name of a very famous man in radio history.
he got credit for inventing something that Tesla had already invented.LOL
flame away guys, thats how i see it!
matt |
Marconi
Advanced Member
Username: Marconi
Post Number: 591
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 1:01 am: |
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Yes Wildrat, that is my cousin Rigatonni |
Hotwire
Advanced Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 904
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 9:33 am: |
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mmmmmmmmmm R I G A T O N I !!!!! |
Hotwire
Advanced Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 905
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 9:38 am: |
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Did'nt Guglielmo Marconi invent the groundplane antenna. I think its real name is the Marconi antenna. I'm not sure but he was the first to send code over seas. |
Wildrat
Advanced Member
Username: Wildrat
Post Number: 782
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 8:15 pm: |
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It is also my understanding that Wildrataroni taught all of them what they know and let them take credit for it. By the way wasn't it my distant earthly cousins that some of the best plagues to Europe and Asia? Think about RATS are responsible for a lot of things. We volunteered to be test creature for your medical marvels. The only thing that you humans fail to realize is that we are strengthening our immune systems for when the rest of our invasion force arrives. After all we would not want to die like the Martians in War of the Worlds. |
Sgt_rat
Junior Member
Username: Sgt_rat
Post Number: 37
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 9:52 pm: |
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I didn't volunteer for some of those ungodly experiments but one I'll never forget is when Pfizer was using me during the testing for Viagra. Didn't sleep for months and my rat family tripled over this planet you humans call Earth. |
Wildrat
Advanced Member
Username: Wildrat
Post Number: 784
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 11:25 am: |
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Oh Yea, I forgot about the Viagra testing. |
Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1237
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 9:04 pm: |
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No i didn't scrape off zinc coating there
Kid on my tower. Polyphaser sells stainless
steel clamps for galvanized towers.
I used a different type Bronzed clamp.
Since only Galvanized, Bronze or Stainless Steel should be used, no other type of metals should
contact galvanized.
I never read anywhere that recommended scraping
off the zinc coating as of yet. If you heard different Kid, e-mail me the article to read. |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1191
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 10:10 pm: |
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i have not heard anything about this, i am only assuming (you know where that can lead!) that the zinc coating is not as good a conductor as the steel that the tower is made of.
so my answer is no,i do not know for sure.
i am interested enough to check though!
i'll post if i find anything,
matt |
Hollowpoint445
Senior Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1088
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 5:34 pm: |
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Just so you know, ALL metals are excellent conductors - including zinc. Zinc is used to galvanize steel because it has excellent resistance to oxidation.
As long as you respect the galvanic index while bonding two different metals together, you'll have a good connection. That means you cannot connect copper to zinc directly because there is too large of a galvanic difference and there will be oxidation. Use a metal such as stainless steel, nickel, or solder as a buffer and the connection should last much longer. |
Wildrat
Advanced Member
Username: Wildrat
Post Number: 785
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 7:46 pm: |
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Roger Dodger, Over and Out, That's a big 10-4, catch ya later alligator, Quack |
Wildrat
Advanced Member
Username: Wildrat
Post Number: 789
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 7:59 pm: |
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Well I got done with my re-routing my computer wiring project so I went outside and connected a ground wire from my tower to the chain-link fence. It is now a part of my single point ground system. You would not believe what happened! I came inside and I immediately noticed a change in my receive. I decided to try some DX. I called out and a faint station came back to me. We talked for a few. Then I asked him what he did for a living. He told me he was the CEO of a major fencing manufacturing company. I told him that I had just connected my antenna tower to my chain link fence, then I told him my handle, then he told me his. His handle is Fat Rat. It turns out he is one of my alien brothers building large fenced pens to keep you humans in. BBQ time is nearly here! Gaught U! Seriously though I did connect the tower to the fence. |
Hotwire
Advanced Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 932
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 11:34 am: |
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COOL! Do you have a lot of fence? One day I noticed. Each person in my nieghborhood has chain link fence and each fence is connected. Probably not making a good connection but just guessing my antenna pole is connected to THOUSANDS of feet of chain link fence! Wondering if it can possibly cause interference with all that? I rarley ever have static above 1 db and always have just a low hiss for a noise floor. Sometimes I have to turn the volume up LOUD to even hear static! Then somebody talks and I almost mess all over myself from being startled. |
Wildrat
Advanced Member
Username: Wildrat
Post Number: 790
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 4:37 pm: |
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They have adult diapers for that problem. |
Patzerozero
Senior Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 2428
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 7:09 pm: |
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is anyone else beginning to wonder who's received the bigger dosage of RF, wildrat or sgt rat  |
Hotwire
Advanced Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 934
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 12:55 am: |
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I almost did it. I pray I never have to wear diapers again! They say after you get so old you start to go back the other way. Adult diapers may be proof! |
