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Hotwire
Senior Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1260
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 1:25 pm: | 
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Does anyone know anything about these old radios? I know the General is 11meter cause it has crystals in it for 27 Mhz but the Vocaline I'm not so sure. I don't have the power cords. Are they worth trying to figure out a way to power them up? Also are they AC or DC? Or both? Thanks
[IMG]http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h207/Hotwire491/volcaline.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h207/Hotwire491/MC-6.jpg[/IMG] |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3778
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 5:52 pm: |
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ILLEAGAL !!!!!!!!
They cannot even be turn on they are not allowed AT ALL !
They are super regen radios on 460 mhz and will cause interferance to all the radios near that frequency! |
Allan
Member
Username: Allan
Post Number: 97
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 6:15 pm: |
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Fire 'em up? Sure!
Alot were both AC and DC. Back in the days before the transistor was invented, vibrators and a step-up transformer were used to increase the voltage from batteries. The vibrator is basically a high frequency switch that oscillated the battery's power into the primary of the transformer and generated "fake AC"..
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Allan
Member
Username: Allan
Post Number: 98
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 6:57 pm: |
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??????? 460 mhz?
Hotwire. Dunno what that rant's about.
Both are old Cb tranceivers from the '60's. The Vocaline is a single channel crystal and the General MC-6 is a about a 7 channel with tunable receive.
http://www.oldtuberadio.com/radios/general/MC-6.html |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3780
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 7:24 pm: |
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IF IT SAYS CLASS "B" or has 465 Meg printed on the lable or when you open it up has 2 " WIRES " with small plates attached going from a small tube it is ILLEAGAL !!!!!!!
Regen receivers are not allowed on that part of UHF they do not meet part 15 rules at 465 mhz
UNLESS they have a RF stage infrount of that 6c4 detector..... the Vocaline DOES NOT and the detector will act as a transmitter even on receive.......
Check with the FCC but to be used even receivers have to have a part 15 acceptance..... |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3781
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 7:26 pm: |
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BTY ALL TUBE TYPE CB RADIOS ( made before 1976 ) are leagal to receive with ...........
The ban is USING or SELLING them ...... |
Allan
Member
Username: Allan
Post Number: 99
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 7:40 pm: |
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It befuddles me about all the radios, amps, and illegal equipment talked about on this forum every day with no mention legality. A neat ol' antique tube type with tubes probably older that dirt, Hotwire would be lucky to get 1 watt out of them. Threads talking of 1kw+ comp amps on 11 meter and such doesn't even get a yawn. I doubt it would even make a dent in the radio spectrum. |
Allan
Intermediate Member
Username: Allan
Post Number: 100
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 8:04 pm: |
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I understand and respect the concern for "doin' it by the book", but HotWire just asked if they were AC/DC and would they be worth foolin' with to see if he could get them to fire up. There are probably hundreds of these old rigs being uncovered in attics and basements every week, with the new found owners dying to see if it would still work. I, myself, love the neat old stuff, no matter what it is. |
Allan
Intermediate Member
Username: Allan
Post Number: 101
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 8:06 pm: |
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Hotwire. Jump in here anytime. It's your thread after all...... |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3782
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 8:24 pm: |
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"There are probably hundreds of these old rigs being uncovered in attics and basements every week"
The fine for interfering on goverment frequencies which 455-465 has many including out jail is 7500-10,000 dollars.
The use of non certified radios even by a end user can get you in BIG trouble .....
THIS IS NOT CB .........
However as for the old CB sets I FEEL MYSELF that it was wrong to blanket ban them but they did...... |
Allan
Intermediate Member
Username: Allan
Post Number: 102
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 8:25 pm: |
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BTY ALL TUBE TYPE CB RADIOS ( made before 1976 ) are leagal to receive with ...........
ILLEAGAL !!!!!!!!
They cannot even be turn on they are not allowed AT ALL !
How's he gonna (just) recieve legally, if he can't even turn 'em on? lol
Thanks for the humor.
O.K. I'm done... |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3783
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 8:41 pm: |
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ALLEN .......
Your are confussing CLASS B UHF with CLASS D ( 27 mhz ) CB!
IT IS NOT ILLEAGAL TO RECEIVE WITH A 27 MHZ CB TUBE SET only USE IT
IT IS A major offence to use a class "B" CB radio today you get caught with one which you will since they radate a wide band of white regen noise over several miles if hooked to a outside antenna and see how many friends you make on GMRS/ goverment bands up there ..... |
Allan
Intermediate Member
Username: Allan
Post Number: 104
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 9:35 pm: |
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Uhh,  I owe Mr. Bruce an apology. After researching the Vocaline more, I found he is correct (as always! lol) about it transmitting in the 465mhz range on AM. Man, talk about old school stuff. Should make a nice coaster for that cold one, Hotwire.... |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3785
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 4:44 am: |
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OK since this is confusing here is what we are talking about ......
OLD TUBE TYPE RADIOS .......
There are 4 CB radios A B C AND D
A and B are old bussness bands the class "B" became GMRS & FRS and unless the radio is transistor it is ILLEAGAL ..... PERIOD.
Class "C" is remote control like your cars and planes .....
Class "D" is 27 mhz CB the 40 ch radios ..... NOT THE NOW OUTLAWED 23 ch sets.
NOW it is not illeagal to use one of the 23's as a receiver but is IS illeagal to use any class "D" cb built before Sept 10 1976 to transmit with.
That is the fact .......
And YES I LOVE THE OLD RADIOS however i DO NOT recomend them unless you are converting them to 10 meters ..... THAT is still leagal ..... |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3783
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 9:51 pm: |
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Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3787
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 8:11 am: |
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JUST DONT PUT A ANTENNA ON IT ....... |
Hotwire
Senior Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1261
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 12:06 pm: |
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BRUCE! No worrys! I promise never to turn them on ever! I don't have the power cords anyways. I will sqaush them with a sledge hammer and send you the pics ok? Better yet I will mail them to YOU for proper disposal! Joking aside, I understand fully that they are no longer approved by the FCC. Its just the curiosity that gets me going and I wanted to show them on the forum and find out a little info about them. I asked you about Vocaline long ago Bruce and you told me then they were illegal. I just did'nt know its illegal to turn them on! WOW! What a splatter box I have. Again Bruce thanks for your time and input and I take your warning seriously! They are just dust collectors on diplay in my collection.
Allan thanks for the info and how they work. I would have never known. I learned a while back not to contest Bruce's info man! He does know his stuff. I knew the pic would get him going though! Just imagine if the pic showed the Vocaline turned on with antenna connected. Bruce would be boarding a plane to Indiana right now! Just pickin on ya Bruce! thanks guys |
Allan
Intermediate Member
Username: Allan
Post Number: 106
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 2:23 pm: |
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Just the 'old school' Volcaline is a Class B, 475MHz AM radio from what Mr. Bruce states. The General is an old 11 meter from the '60's, and should be OK to play with... Zat right, Bruce? I'm learn'n! |
Hotwire
Senior Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1266
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 11:22 am: |
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ALLAN! Gee Wizz! Don't ask Bruce a question like that! On his keyboard he has an ILLEGAL button so he does not even have to type the word!
Hey Bruce I already put them away. Thought about tossing out the Volcaline cause your right,it is junk! I had toys made better. |
Hotwire
Senior Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1267
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 11:23 am: |
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Pssstt, Hey Allan, I found a cord for the MC-6! Don't tell Bruce. |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3791
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 7:47 pm: |
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HOTWIRE YOU FOUND A WHAT !!!!!!
GIVE IT UP ........ |
Allan
Intermediate Member
Username: Allan
Post Number: 109
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 10:13 pm: |
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Hey, no prob... You'll notice the all knowing Mr. B did post you a wiring diagram up there. Shhhh! |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3792
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 6:13 am: |
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Allen .... when it comes to 23's i dont care
However Hotwire set himself up ! LOL |
Hotwire
Senior Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1282
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 12:51 pm: |
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Who are those guys in suits parked down my street with a funny looking antenna on top their van? Allan YOU! said it was OK! Thats what I'm gonna tell'em! Bruce tried to stop you and I did'nt know better! Hopefully the turn off all the lights, shut the curtains, stuff the mailbox full of junkmail, and turn on the porchlight nobodys home trick will work this time! |
Allan
Intermediate Member
Username: Allan
Post Number: 111
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 1:00 pm: |
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Hup. Sure did. |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3796
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 8:00 am: |
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Hotwire you would make a good TRUSTEE ..... we could talk RADIO ..... |
Hotwire
Senior Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1295
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 1:02 pm: |
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Bruce! If I was incarcerated in your jail I would love to be trustee and be able to hang out with you! You could show me all your CB modification extra channel wattage peak tricks! Hey!!! I could be your student! |
Hotwire
Senior Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1296
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 1:18 pm: |
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Bruce, Maybe not a good idea! You might be a bad influence on me. Mom told me to stay away from rebels like you! Hey maybe we can look for illeagal cb's and retune the back to be fcc approved? Think somebody can make good money starting a business like that? Imagine Bruce's Truck Stop CB Shop. Slogan could be..." Is that radio splattering all over the band, wattage peaked so high that you lock down the channel? Are you so loud that when you talk you blow up speakers? Come on in and lets get that limiter replaced. Remove those useless exter channels and put that wattage back to 4 where it belongs! Oh and you don't need that echo either, its outta here!" Truck drivers would be lined up for work to be done! You would have to hire someone to count all your piles of money! The band would be quiet again after retuning about 40 million cb's! Pat want's to be your first customer! Right Pat? |
Allan
Intermediate Member
Username: Allan
Post Number: 118
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 6:08 pm: |
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Brucies "Moon Bounce" CB Metroplex and Imporium
It's all in the antenna! |
Al_lafon
Intermediate Member
Username: Al_lafon
Post Number: 209
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 7:54 pm: |
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Hay i know a few guys running 65watts on MURS
154.600 and 154.570 |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3801
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 10:45 pm: |
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Al we have a few here who ill bet are running 160+ |
Hotwire
Senior Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1303
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 1:15 pm: |
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Go get'em Bruce! sic'em! Make'em pay! |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3803
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 2:42 pm: |
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hotwire they keep it INTRESTING you can hear them for 20 miles .... |
