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Knowledge
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Username: Knowledge

Post Number: 14
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 3:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

-Setup-

Midland 77-285
KL500
Yaesu YS-60
Wilson 1K

-Issue-

The Radio and Meter are grounded, the KL500 isn't grounded other than the 8" ground to the circuit. When the Meter is grounded, my SWRs go a slight bit higher but equal around the band. When I unground it and try to calibrate it, it reacts to me moving closer to it or holding the knob, also, it plummets on Ch. 1 and goes up on Ch. 40.

-Questions-

What do you guys make of this? Should I leave the Meter grounded? What's the more accurate reading in SWRs?
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Kid_vicious
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Username: Kid_vicious

Post Number: 1677
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 7:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you should try this meter in another installation, (maybe at the home base) and see if it acts the same.
or try a different meter in the car, and see if it does the same thing.

thats the only way to KNOW whether its the meter's fault or not.
matt

also, never, ever, ever, assume that its not your jumpers because they "look" fine, or "used to work fine".
always have enough jumpers on hand to swap out a suspect.

didnt we already figure out that it was a bad connector on the antenna coax?
or was that someone else?
matt
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Knowledge
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 9:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That was me, but it was the ground issue. Once I grounded the Meter and Radio, the issue with it staying keyed up went away, but the SWRs went a bit higher.
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Tech808
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Username: Tech808

Post Number: 10084
Registered: 8-2002


Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 6:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Knowledge,

All Antenna's, Radio's, Meter's, Amp's and ALL Equipment that is inline between your radio and antenna should all be grounded to a SINGLE POINT to get accurate result's.

Hope this help's,

Lon
Tech808
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Dale
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Username: Dale

Post Number: 419
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i agree with lon on grounding.also agree with having different jumpers should be different lenths 3,6,9,12,ect.now 1 thing id do maybe ya already done it is check swrs with just radio,antenna,swr meter see were your at if no adjusting is needed then add amp see where your at.ya dont want swrs any higher than 1.3 when checking it with just radio,antenna,meter.hope this helps
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Therealporkchop
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Username: Therealporkchop

Post Number: 752
Registered: 11-2002


Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 3:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought that one time Mr. DoubleZero there told me not to ground everything together that it would cause 'loops'.

Was Pat tore-back again?
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Tech833
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Username: Tech833

Post Number: 1364
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 9:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just read this original post.

When this happens it means there is a ground differential between some pieces of equipment. I would make DANG sure the coax ground is soldered on both ends of your jumpers. Crimp type connectors are simply not good enough. Your coax shields need to be soldered at each end. Cold solder joints are also a cause of this, so when you install your own PL-259's, be sure and scrape away the chrome plating around the little solder holes so you're soldering right to the brass the connector is made of.

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