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Hawkeye
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Username: Hawkeye

Post Number: 13
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 8:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Grate cb on am friends say with topgun on with 5w key its as loud as my 148 and 300 Elite so far I can talk about same distence with s9 as with 148 and box .Ok on side band what deadkey should I set for and do you use topgun on or off any advice apritcated.
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Vanillagorilla
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Username: Vanillagorilla

Post Number: 654
Registered: 4-2005


Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 9:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Top gun on or off I do not remember making a difference on SSB..Get radio checks either way and ask which sounds better.
Also..you'll have NO deadkey on sideband. Adjust Variable power to see full output swing. If you see any deadkey on a meter its noise the mic is picking up.
Enjoy that radio!

Hank CEF559
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Vanillagorilla
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Post Number: 655
Registered: 4-2005


Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 9:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Top gun on or off I do not remember making a difference on SSB..Get radio checks either way and ask which sounds better.
Also..you'll have NO deadkey on sideband. Adjust Variable power to see full output swing. If you see any deadkey on a meter its noise the mic is picking up.
Enjoy that radio!

Hank CEF559
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Hotwire
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Username: Hotwire

Post Number: 1501
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 9:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hawkeye, I would set the S9 to dead key 2 watts and swing its max for a 4 pill amp. Be very careful if you run a 2 pill amp. Its a BIG NO NO from Sam Lewis to run a 2 pill with the S9!

If you just go barefoot then I would just leave it be at the 5 watt deadkey and swing away.

The sideband mode has no deadkey carrier. Its all modulation. Topgun on or off is up to you and how you like the reports you get. I would also like to recommend a good noise cancelling mic especially for SSB. Forget about power mics they are useless. Look for a compression mic or speech processor, then the S9 will sound totally even more awesome yet!
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Hollowpoint445
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Username: Hollowpoint445

Post Number: 1281
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The "Top Gun Modulator" on the radio is for AM, not SSB. It makes it "swing."

The switch doesn't control the compression speech processor - that's always on.

Adding a compression microphone to a radio that already has a built in compression speech processor won't do anything unless it has a higher level of compression than the radio already does. Just turn up the microphone gain and you'll get more compression.
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Hotwire
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Username: Hotwire

Post Number: 1503
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 9:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OPPS, Good call Hollowpoint. Man I need one of those radios!
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Hawkeye
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Username: Hawkeye

Post Number: 14
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok vanillagorilla and Hotwire, thanks for your help. I have It. Two more things and I should be ok. The band knob is set at D. Is this correct for am? One more thing mic gain doesn't sqeal wide open. It swings the best wheather your using topgun or not. Is it ok to run mic gain wide open both way? Thanks
The only thing i dont understand is the band knob. It was set to d, is that where it should be for a.m. and leave it on d when I switch to ssb. Thanks
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Moonraker
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Username: Moonraker

Post Number: 225
Registered: 3-2005


Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When you are in band D, channels 1-40 are the cb channels. All the other bands are upper and lower channels (not upper & lower sideband that is completely different) notice that when you flip the band selector the channel stays the same but the frequency changes.
If you were on "CB" channel 20 which is 27.205 and you turned the knob to E your radio would still say 20 but you would be on 27.655 if you turned the knob to C the radio would still say 20 but you would be on 26.755.
No matter what band you are in what frequency or channel you are on you can still choose between FM, AM, USB (upper sideband) & LSB (lower sideband) you just have to have someone on another radio in the same mode (AM, FM, USB, or LSB) to understand each other.
Just remember upper and lower channels/frequencies and upper and lower sideband are two different things.

Set the mic gain however you want it. It it is set wide open it won't hurt a thing no matter how everything else is set. You wont notice much difference in swing with the top gun when you have a high dead key. If you were to lower the deadkey to run an amp, the top gun would allow you to get full swing from a low key.
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Bc910
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Username: Bc910

Post Number: 731
Registered: 7-2004


Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 1:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok Hawkeye, your definitely new at this
BTW nobody faults you for that, so don't worry
But since your new, here goes
Example:
If you wanted to talk on your "local am channel" the one every one talks on (lets say 13) you would have the band switch on "D" and the mode in "AM" position. If you wanted to go to 19 and talk to all the truckers all you would have to do then is turn the channel knob to 19. Actually at that point with all the knobs the way i said all you have to do to talk with any one with a legal 40 channel CB is to turn the channel knob to any one of the 40 channels! Now, the band switch switches to different frequencies (below the standard 40 and above the standard 40) I you wanted to go to 27.555 MHZ (I may be wrong) you would go to band "E" then turn the channel selector to "12" (I think that is it, as memory serves) You will notice that the frequency counter says 27.5550, YOUR THERE!!!. Now remember frequency and mode are two different things in all the examples I just listed, if you wanted to go to SSB (weather lower or upper) all you would have to do is switch the mode to LSB or USB and your done! So if you were on CB channel 13 AM and wanted to talk to someone on side band on that channel just flip the mode switch. Hot wire is right SSB is ALL modulation, no carrier (therefor no dead key).
I always find the oreo cookie explanation, a good one
think of an oreo cookie, the whole thing would be AM the white stuff in the middle is your carrier, and the cookie parts are your upper and lower side bands. When all are together you have your AM power distributed to each of them evenly) Now take apart the cookie, toss out the white stuff and the top cookie, now your left with only the bottom cookie (lower side band) now all of your power is driven into just that one segment of what used to be a much bigger cookie effectively adding 3x the power. To top that off the FCC allows more power on SSB so in stead of 4 watts max being distributed 3 ways, you now are allowed 12 watts distributed in to one neatly taken apart cookie!!!
I hope this helps
BC
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Moonraker
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Username: Moonraker

Post Number: 226
Registered: 3-2005


Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 4:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One more thing, your radio will cover the 10 meter ham band which is 28.000 MHz and above. Just because you can talk there (but not legally without a liscense) doesn't mean you should. Eventhough it is illegal to talk out of band D on your radio or to even use that radio on 11 meters you'll do just fine if you use your common sense. I rarely ever talk below 26.815 or above 27.635.
If you need to know more, look to the left of the page, click on search and search for "freeband".
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Vanillagorilla
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Username: Vanillagorilla

Post Number: 657
Registered: 4-2005


Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 5:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All the right answers..one thing not touched on was your question about mic gain. Only time I EVER turned it down was to lower the swing into a 2 pill amp. Other than that "all the way".
If you feel the need to use a power mic (I used a D104) keep THAT low...I had it set around "2".. just to "tin up" my voice.
I only used an '04 to suit my taste and NOT to boost my modulation....S9 don't need any more help :-)

Hank CEF559

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