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Streaky
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Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Has anyone ever used copper pipe instead of solid copper ground rods? Do you think it would work ?

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Coyote
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Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 8:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Never tried but I don't see why it wouldn't work. May be a bit harder getting into the ground unless it's pretty soft.
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Tech237
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Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 5:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually you get more surface area form a copper pipe that from a copper rod. Work it out - you have the outside areas and then the area inside the pipe.

However a 12" sq of flat plate works even better because you get better area. A 8ft pipe has less than 100" of surface are in contact with the ground but a 12 x 12 inch plate has over 288 square inches of surface. Another bonus is a flat plate is easier to add ground radials to than a pipe.
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Tech291
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Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 6:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

a 5/8" diameter,8' long copper-clad groundrod has 188.4 sq inches of surface area.
.625(dia in inches)x3.14(pi)=1.9625(circumfrence)x96(lengh in inches)=188.4 sq inches........(I think that is correct)






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Streaky
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Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 6:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tech237 would you have to bury the plates as deep as the ground rods can go?

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Tech237
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Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 9:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have, in the past buried the plate at the point where the soil is moist so that would depend on your location.
Tech291 true but you generally have a foot or more of the rod above ground which deducts from the surface area of the ground.

Also the plate is good in areas where you cannot drive a rod due to near the surface rock formations.
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Streaky
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Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 9:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the info the plates may be the way to go as we are moving to an acreage and I really don't know what the soil composition is.
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1861
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Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where would you get these plates ?
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Streaky
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Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 6:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1861

I found them in an industrial supply shop in the electrical section, But I think I will make my own.

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