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Bluebird
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 2-2004


Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have a vertigal gain antenna 22ft 6" 5/8 wave,with a tuning ring.
it is a homemade ant,,,the plans told me that the radials had to be 102",,but on other plans the radials have to be the same lenth as the antenna. what is the correct lenth to have the radials? thanks
MITCHELL
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Tech833
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Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1/4 wave, or about 108 inches.
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Hollowpoint445
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Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 7:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some modeling programs show a lower takeoff angle when 5/8 wavelength radials are used, but they have to be at least 135 degrees from the vertical radiator, and 160 degrees is apparently the optimum angle.
Aack! - Bill the cat
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Bluebird
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Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2007 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks alot guys,,,i am going to try 1/4 and 5/8
wavelengths and see what works best
MITCHELL
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Tech833
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Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2007 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HP- 5/8 wave radials? You do realize that if precicely tuned, would set up some odd current nodes that would distort the capacitive conduction along the Earth, right?
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Speedinevada
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Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 3:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

just purchased and installed imax2000, setup at first alone, then with ground plane kit. alone able to get swr down to 1:1, with swr is almost 2:1. another user in my area told me TVI was a problem for him with ground radials, removed them and it helped. noticed when cold at night swr rises, sun comes out and it lowers again. is this normal? my old starduster wasnt effected by temperature, always 1:1 swr, even with numerous hose clamp / brass stud repairs. for now leaving ground radials off...
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Slugo4449
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Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 8:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Usually a change in SWR, because of temp, is a moisture problem.

Hows the connectors and connections? Did you water proof all of your pl-259's?

If you get TVI, try some decoupling loops at the base of the antenna with the coaxial cable. Just make about 7-9 loops in the coax.

Marty

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