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Linx
Member
Username: Linx
Post Number: 91
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 9:05 am: | 
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I am looking for a powerful dx-inspired mobile antenna. I was looking at the Monkey Made, and that made me stumble across the Mr. Coily, and while researching it, I discovered the Predator. So, I defiantly either want the Mr. Coily or Predator, but don't know which. They are very simular design. The Coily is 1 peice, and the Predator is multiple pieces. I think the Coily is easier to tune.
I don't know which to go for. Anyone ever compared the 2? I've sent E-Mails asking each about the other to never recieve a response.
Rob
CEF# 830
Portland, TN
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Patzerozero
Senior Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 3652
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 4:16 pm: |
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the response i got from xxx was that his 'is what it is' & 'he will not dispute his customers findings'. to me, that sounded EXACTLY like what i have found over the years-ABSOLUTELY no noticeable difference WHATSOEVER in XMIT or RCV. between MOST of the large open-air DX-type mobile antennas. i have seen a difference, from barely noticeable to very noticeable between the 'standards'-wilsons, k40's, 'glas sticks, tuneable 'glas sticks, astatic antennas, & probably 20 or more large open-air coil DX-types. the predator is multiple pieces because if you damage it, it can be repaired. or, you can change pieces. as for tuning, i think my predator was just as easy to tune as any antenna i ever tried. i got 1.1:1 swr on my mag mount in 15 minutes, by trimming over 15" from the stinger. i later checked with an analyzer to find my resonant frequency was down nearly 2 mHz. i cut a couple more inches off the stinger, got resonant at 27.1, swr 1.1:1 from 26.8-27.5. bandwidth is about the only difference between the 'big' antennas. the THICKER the are, the wider the bandwidth. while they show resonance where you want, & swr are good, i have HEARD that the wider the bandwidth ACTUALLY shows LOWER field strength readings then those wiht NARROWER bandwidth.
if i ever hit a branch with a monkey made, i'd peel the roof off my truck. the coily or predator would break 1st. the predator can be repaired. i don't need to handle 25kw like the monkey. i have used predator for years. |
Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 2114
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 9:01 pm: |
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I'm not into mobile antennas like Pat is, but, i have played around alittle with both those antennas. Not much difference at all between Coily and Predator. The only difference i seen was in the way they were built.
They were borrowed, so, i didn't own them.
If i had to choose one, it would probably be the Predator. Both are nice, depends what you want... |
Vanillagorilla
Senior Member
Username: Vanillagorilla
Post Number: 1006
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 8:47 am: |
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Never touched a coily but I would also like to add that the P10K is also ALUMINUM...feather light! Makes a BIG difference if your going with a 3 pad Mag mount. I lug mounted mine through the roof of my pickup and other than wind load I'm GLAD this thing is only few ounces compared to pounds!
Hank~CEF559/CEFHAM242
11mtr Northeast Net Control
Eastern Long Island NY
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Tech237
Moderator
Username: Tech237
Post Number: 766
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 6:22 pm: |
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Somewhere I have photos of my first car (Austin 1800) with a Hustler roof mounted with an 11m tip on it. Forgot about it one day and went into an underground carpark - 36 lights I took out before I made it to a spot where I could fold it over
Simon
Tech237
KD7IEB
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Patzerozero
Senior Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 3678
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 9:51 pm: |
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i hit the low clearance sign at a fast food restaurant HARD....thank goodness for the mag mount. the CRASH scared the heck outta the people on the other side of the speaker  |
Dale
Advanced Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 840
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 10:30 pm: |
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im actually thinking about getting a astatic 5k
ive done a search and saw were ya tested these
and saw how performance in the p10k and astatic
was close only the astatic couldnt handle power
which i never run more than 100watts in my mobile .the quad pad that coppers sell will it work good for that antenna
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
cef426
cvc#64
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Linx
Member
Username: Linx
Post Number: 94
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 4:29 pm: |
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Decisions decisions.....
Rob
CEF# 830
Portland, TN
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Dale
Advanced Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 850
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 8:54 pm: |
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yup yup.
cb=constantly buying
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
cef426
cvc#64
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Linx
Member
Username: Linx
Post Number: 95
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 7:55 am: |
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no doubt about that, lol.
Rob
CEF# 830
Portland, TN
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Marconi
Advanced Member
Username: Marconi
Post Number: 703
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 8:49 am: |
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Rightttt! |
Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 2115
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 11:15 am: |
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LOL...YEPPERS |
Ferd1605
Junior Member
Username: Ferd1605
Post Number: 32
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2007 - 12:57 am: |
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if ya can swing it , why not a 1/4 wave whip ? no coil loss , good bandwidth ... what i did for 10 meters was to use the bottom {4ft.} of a Hustler HF antenna with no coil on it but a 4ft stainless whip . It covered all of 11 meters and up to 28.800mhz on 10 meters with a swr of not over 1.7 .... |
